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CNN just started blocking visitors using ad block extensions. It’s made me stop going there. Regardless of what you think of a particular news organization, I

by davely 3y ago

CNN just started blocking visitors using ad block extensions. It’s made me stop going there. Regardless of what you think of a particular news organization, I think this is a sign of things to come. (See YouTube’s experiment with warning users using ad blockers). This will probably just make me use various sites a lot less. Which, in all honesty, is probably good for my overall mental health.

beej71 3y ago
Sometimes ad blocker + no JS gets you in. But, yes, it's good your mental health to not visit those sites.
cwbriscoe 3y ago
They haven't blocked Brave yet apparently.
shadowgovt 3y ago
Cyberpunk stories tend to predict a consolidation to a "legit" net and some flavor of "underground" net, where users are both more capable and more vulnerable than their "aboveground" peers. I sort of suspect this is where we are headed. I'm also not sure it's a bad thing; people derive benefit from playing in a sandbox, and as long as the sandbox isn't the only option, there's value in providing it for those who don't, won't, or can't play the old 'net game of being a full peer online (with all the benefits of "publish whatever" and all the ills of "your machine was compromised? Sounds like a you problem").
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  I see little evidence that anyone wants an "underground" net. Like, how would I report them if someone made an ethnic slur on it? No, I want to live on a sanitized network SKIP AD IN 15 SECS that only allows happiness and suppresses hate.
  - JasonSage 3y ago
    I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or genuine. I also want folks to be able to say anything on the internet, and to have agency in filtering content served to me. I’ll also pay sites that don’t abuse my humanity, to support them. Best of all worlds.
    - NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
      I am genuine in believing few would want this. I do not yet have a theory as to why, it's only my intuition. I want them to want that. Desperately so. I don't think payment helps. They'll take your money and abuse you anyway. One phenomenon I've recently clued into is that of the "market-hostile business". Now that I understand that it is a thing which can exist, I see it everywhere. There are businesses out there which have changed hands many times, and not just new owners purchasing them from the last. New boards of directors, new vice presidents hired, new managers. Just constant churn. And at some point in the (not necessarily recent) past, the people in charge were those that truly hated their customers. Hate of the "burning, eternal rage" variety. But they couldn't kill the golden goose either. They still sell the stuff their customers want to buy. But they poison it. They fill it up with garbage. They make it worse in every way possible, right up to the point where this is still a deniable phenomenon. See it alot in media... there's some show or franchise or genre that you like. But the people producing the show hate it. They think it's low-brow. They give the laziest effort possible. They fight with the few on the production crew who enjoy it. In many cases, getting them fired. Many other brands and products are like this though. And if you pay them for it, they don't love you for being a loyal customer. They resent you for being a chump. And there's nothing to be done about this.
      - narag 3y ago
        One phenomenon I've recently clued into is that of the "market-hostile business". Not only old businesses, watch Peter Thiel's "competition is for losers": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fx5Q8xGU8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fx5Q8xGU8k
      - shadowgovt 3y ago
bhhaskin 3y ago
Seems to be working with Firefox mobile and ublock
hfuyf65 3y ago
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by davely 3y ago

beej71 3y ago

Sometimes ad blocker + no JS gets you in. But, yes, it's good your mental health to not visit those sites.

cwbriscoe 3y ago

They haven't blocked Brave yet apparently.

shadowgovt 3y ago

Cyberpunk stories tend to predict a consolidation to a "legit" net and some flavor of "underground" net, where users are both more capable and more vulnerable than their "aboveground" peers. I sort of suspect this is where we are headed. I'm also not sure it's a bad thing; people derive benefit from playing in a sandbox, and as long as the sandbox isn't the only option, there's value in providing it for those who don't, won't, or can't play the old 'net game of being a full peer online (with all the benefits of "publish whatever" and all the ills of "your machine was compromised? Sounds like a you problem").

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
I see little evidence that anyone wants an "underground" net. Like, how would I report them if someone made an ethnic slur on it? No, I want to live on a sanitized network SKIP AD IN 15 SECS that only allows happiness and suppresses hate.
- JasonSage 3y ago
  I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or genuine. I also want folks to be able to say anything on the internet, and to have agency in filtering content served to me. I’ll also pay sites that don’t abuse my humanity, to support them. Best of all worlds.
  - NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
    I am genuine in believing few would want this. I do not yet have a theory as to why, it's only my intuition. I want them to want that. Desperately so. I don't think payment helps. They'll take your money and abuse you anyway. One phenomenon I've recently clued into is that of the "market-hostile business". Now that I understand that it is a thing which can exist, I see it everywhere. There are businesses out there which have changed hands many times, and not just new owners purchasing them from the last. New boards of directors, new vice presidents hired, new managers. Just constant churn. And at some point in the (not necessarily recent) past, the people in charge were those that truly hated their customers. Hate of the "burning, eternal rage" variety. But they couldn't kill the golden goose either. They still sell the stuff their customers want to buy. But they poison it. They fill it up with garbage. They make it worse in every way possible, right up to the point where this is still a deniable phenomenon. See it alot in media... there's some show or franchise or genre that you like. But the people producing the show hate it. They think it's low-brow. They give the laziest effort possible. They fight with the few on the production crew who enjoy it. In many cases, getting them fired. Many other brands and products are like this though. And if you pay them for it, they don't love you for being a loyal customer. They resent you for being a chump. And there's nothing to be done about this.
    - narag 3y ago
      One phenomenon I've recently clued into is that of the "market-hostile business". Not only old businesses, watch Peter Thiel's "competition is for losers": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fx5Q8xGU8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fx5Q8xGU8k
    - shadowgovt 3y ago

bhhaskin 3y ago

Seems to be working with Firefox mobile and ublock

hfuyf65 3y ago

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