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Here's the thing: working hard doesn't just benefit your employer. It also benefits you because you'll learn new skills rapidly. If your employer doesn't recog

Here's the thing: working hard doesn't just benefit your employer. It also benefits you because you'll learn new skills rapidly. If your employer doesn't recognize the value you're adding, don't just sit around hoping for a raise someday. Use your new skills to find one who will. At least in my experience (as an engineer in the US), this is relatively easy and is considered a normal thing to do in one's career.

giantg2 3y ago
"It also benefits you because you'll learn new skills rapidly." Only if those skills are in wide demand. Moving companies can be risky and complicated depending on one's personal and family issues.
- marcusverus 3y ago
  > Only if those skills are in wide demand. Of course it's not worth spending extra time to learn skills that aren't in demand. This would, by definition, be a dead-end job. If you have a growth mindset like GP, having a dead-end job doesn't mean that "hard work doesn't pay off". It just means that the 'hard work' should go into looking/training/applying for a job/career with more learning opportunities/upside. > Moving companies can be risky and complicated depending on one's personal and family issues. "Edge cases exist" is a given. It's still good advice in general.
  - thealig 3y ago
    I don't think personal and family issues are necessarily edge cases. Plus it also depends from where the person is and what the technology industry scene is like there. Nowadays jumping companies is easier and more acceptable (atleast in tech) for sure, but then there's always some uncertainty with respect to interviewing and obtaining offers(and possible stress) in particular when you're past a certain age.
switchbak 3y ago
> If your employer doesn't recognize the value you're adding, don't just sit around hoping for a raise someday. This is key. Staying at a company long-term is not a recipe for success. They're greedy and would lay you off swiftly if it was in their financial interest. You should be greedy too, and don't hesitate to improve your situation if such an option is open to you.
Auracle 3y ago
Not every job has 'more work = new skills.' Usually it's just more of the same.
- giantg2 3y ago
  Yeah, in my experience it's been more time on the system is more learning, but not in hours. It's usually the unusual errors that are the most interesting and informative, but those tend to happen over a fixed time and not hour dependent.

giantg2 3y ago

"It also benefits you because you'll learn new skills rapidly." Only if those skills are in wide demand. Moving companies can be risky and complicated depending on one's personal and family issues.

marcusverus 3y ago
> Only if those skills are in wide demand. Of course it's not worth spending extra time to learn skills that aren't in demand. This would, by definition, be a dead-end job. If you have a growth mindset like GP, having a dead-end job doesn't mean that "hard work doesn't pay off". It just means that the 'hard work' should go into looking/training/applying for a job/career with more learning opportunities/upside. > Moving companies can be risky and complicated depending on one's personal and family issues. "Edge cases exist" is a given. It's still good advice in general.
- thealig 3y ago
  I don't think personal and family issues are necessarily edge cases. Plus it also depends from where the person is and what the technology industry scene is like there. Nowadays jumping companies is easier and more acceptable (atleast in tech) for sure, but then there's always some uncertainty with respect to interviewing and obtaining offers(and possible stress) in particular when you're past a certain age.

switchbak 3y ago

> If your employer doesn't recognize the value you're adding, don't just sit around hoping for a raise someday. This is key. Staying at a company long-term is not a recipe for success. They're greedy and would lay you off swiftly if it was in their financial interest. You should be greedy too, and don't hesitate to improve your situation if such an option is open to you.

Auracle 3y ago

Not every job has 'more work = new skills.' Usually it's just more of the same.

giantg2 3y ago
Yeah, in my experience it's been more time on the system is more learning, but not in hours. It's usually the unusual errors that are the most interesting and informative, but those tend to happen over a fixed time and not hour dependent.