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I don't know how to obtain a plausible number but Firefox is an x86 application and Safari is just a part of Apple's walled garden. Also I can not tell anything

I don't know how to obtain a plausible number but Firefox is an x86 application and Safari is just a part of Apple's walled garden. Also I can not tell anything about snoop-phones because I do not use them.

Hamuko 3y ago
Apple's walled garden has a lot of visitors, and everyone on iOS is forced to use Safari.
fragmede 3y ago
> I don't know how to obtain a plausible number A popular search engine like Google, or a less popular and freer, user privacy respecting search engine like DuckDuckGo, if you prefer not to use Google might help you get to stats other people have reported their websites getting, which is a rough approximation of plausible numbers. Those numbers will show you, without you having to use "snoop-phones" how many, approximately, people use Firefox. Which is about 2%.
- eimrine 3y ago
  Why do you think that some random result from Google is plausible? Why not to just search a cure from cancer or Rieman's proof in Google or DDG? The snoop-phone case means that I do not want to see mobile browsers in those digits because as far as I know about them, there is no way of activating dev mode in browser on your snoop-phone, correct me please if I'm wrong.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    Using Google and searching for "cure for cancer", I get a result from WebMD, which states "No “alternative” or natural cancer treatments have been proven to cure cancer." Using Google again, the first result searching for Rieman Hypothesis is a result from Wikipedia, which states that the Rieman Hypothesis is currently unsolved. I believe both of these results to be plausible, thus establishing some level of credibility for using Google (for me). If you have reason to dispute both of those findings, please let me (and the world) know. Now that we've established Google results are, at least, plausible, searching for "browser market share 2023", I get a result * which states that, on desktop, which seems to be why your objection to "snoop phone", Chrome has 61%, Safari has 13%, and Firefox has 6% market share. Again, if I should not believe the results from Google about the Rieman Hypothesis or the cure for cancer, please let me know. * https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...
saagarjha 3y ago
What does Firefox’s architecture have to do with this conversation?
- jen20 3y ago
  Unclear, but the statement itself is also wrong - there are aarch64 binaries for Firefox, and I'm quite sure it will compile and run on a wide variety of other architectures.
shadowgovt 3y ago
That walled garden is the size of a continent these days. It's not really the kind of thing we can just categorically discount if we're talking about a holistic picture of how people engage to the online world.

Hamuko 3y ago

Apple's walled garden has a lot of visitors, and everyone on iOS is forced to use Safari.

fragmede 3y ago

> I don't know how to obtain a plausible number A popular search engine like Google, or a less popular and freer, user privacy respecting search engine like DuckDuckGo, if you prefer not to use Google might help you get to stats other people have reported their websites getting, which is a rough approximation of plausible numbers. Those numbers will show you, without you having to use "snoop-phones" how many, approximately, people use Firefox. Which is about 2%.

eimrine 3y ago
Why do you think that some random result from Google is plausible? Why not to just search a cure from cancer or Rieman's proof in Google or DDG? The snoop-phone case means that I do not want to see mobile browsers in those digits because as far as I know about them, there is no way of activating dev mode in browser on your snoop-phone, correct me please if I'm wrong.
- fragmede 3y ago
  Using Google and searching for "cure for cancer", I get a result from WebMD, which states "No “alternative” or natural cancer treatments have been proven to cure cancer." Using Google again, the first result searching for Rieman Hypothesis is a result from Wikipedia, which states that the Rieman Hypothesis is currently unsolved. I believe both of these results to be plausible, thus establishing some level of credibility for using Google (for me). If you have reason to dispute both of those findings, please let me (and the world) know. Now that we've established Google results are, at least, plausible, searching for "browser market share 2023", I get a result * which states that, on desktop, which seems to be why your objection to "snoop phone", Chrome has 61%, Safari has 13%, and Firefox has 6% market share. Again, if I should not believe the results from Google about the Rieman Hypothesis or the cure for cancer, please let me know. * https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...

saagarjha 3y ago

What does Firefox’s architecture have to do with this conversation?

jen20 3y ago
Unclear, but the statement itself is also wrong - there are aarch64 binaries for Firefox, and I'm quite sure it will compile and run on a wide variety of other architectures.

shadowgovt 3y ago

That walled garden is the size of a continent these days. It's not really the kind of thing we can just categorically discount if we're talking about a holistic picture of how people engage to the online world.