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>We concluded that working long hours is associated with depressive state, anxiety, sleep condition, and coronary heart disease. https://www.sjweh.fi/download.

by tokai 3y ago

>We concluded that working long hours is associated with depressive state, anxiety, sleep condition, and coronary heart disease. https://www.sjweh.fi/download.php?abstract_id=3388&file_nro=1 https://www.sjweh.fi/download.php?abstract_id=3388&file_nro=... >The evidence that long working hours are a risk factor for cardiovascular disease is accumulating and suggests a small risk. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11886-018-1049-9 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11886-018-1049-9 >[...] working long hours is associated with an elevated risk of early cardiovascular death and hospital-treated infections before age 65. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00189-7/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7...

giantg2 3y ago
Thanks! I'll have to read these. Seems like a lot of those conditions have been correlated with other attributes, such as lower income, etc. I wonder if working longer hours is really just a result of things like money problems causing the stress causing other issues.
- tokai 3y ago
  Just grabbed a selection of both new and a bit older articles from okay sources. There is a lot of studies and reviews on the subject. Try checking for articles citing those three if you want to dive deeper. I believe it should be a good jumping off point.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    Yeah, I mean I've seen a bunch of different ones exploring different factors. I was just wondering what was new about the one in the article (that the article didn't really cover and the link in the article took me to another article but not the actual study).
anonzzzies 3y ago
> >[...] working long hours is associated with an elevated risk of early cardiovascular death and hospital-treated infections before age 65. But that sounds more like stress, depression and burnout which releases cortisol which causes inflammation right? If you work 12+ hours/day with 0 stress and only enjoyment, will the outcome be the same?
- CP3f6kMA 3y ago
  I'd wager that most workers doing 12 hour days aren't enjoying themselves.
  - anonzzzies 3y ago
    Sure, but if they were, would that not result in another outcome?
    - supertimor 3y ago
      As someone who really enjoys their job and also typically works 10-12+ hrs a day full time, I can tell you that the lack of sleep and lack of work/life balance really adds up. It’s just not very sustainable long term and requires entire weekends to recover from and inevitably leads to burnout. Because even with loving your job, there are still only 24 hrs in a day, and spending most of those working leaves very little time to take care of anything outside of your work life. So even if I may not be stressed out over my job, trying to get everything else in my life done in between work can cause huge amounts of stress.
      - anonzzzies 3y ago
        As someone who has been doing 7 days a week 10-12 hours for the past 30 years and never had any issues and still get up happy, well rested and no stress, I think really your job should be your life in this case ; I mean my work is my hobby, my wife works in the company as well. I don't really can see another of being. I could've retired nicely over 20 years ago but I really don't like the stuff most people spend their days doing. But the point is, I guess, it's not the hours; it's that somewhere you are still getting stress or discomfort from it and that's the problem. 10-12 hours a day leave 4+ hours for the gym, games, etc and 8 hours for sleep. I cannot see how that ever can amount to lack of sleep? Work/life balance is another thing; if you have kids this doesn't work, if you don't, it depends on how much you need I guess.

by tokai 3y ago

giantg2 3y ago

Thanks! I'll have to read these. Seems like a lot of those conditions have been correlated with other attributes, such as lower income, etc. I wonder if working longer hours is really just a result of things like money problems causing the stress causing other issues.

tokai 3y ago
Just grabbed a selection of both new and a bit older articles from okay sources. There is a lot of studies and reviews on the subject. Try checking for articles citing those three if you want to dive deeper. I believe it should be a good jumping off point.
- giantg2 3y ago
  Yeah, I mean I've seen a bunch of different ones exploring different factors. I was just wondering what was new about the one in the article (that the article didn't really cover and the link in the article took me to another article but not the actual study).

anonzzzies 3y ago

> >[...] working long hours is associated with an elevated risk of early cardiovascular death and hospital-treated infections before age 65. But that sounds more like stress, depression and burnout which releases cortisol which causes inflammation right? If you work 12+ hours/day with 0 stress and only enjoyment, will the outcome be the same?

CP3f6kMA 3y ago
I'd wager that most workers doing 12 hour days aren't enjoying themselves.
- anonzzzies 3y ago
  Sure, but if they were, would that not result in another outcome?
  - supertimor 3y ago
    As someone who really enjoys their job and also typically works 10-12+ hrs a day full time, I can tell you that the lack of sleep and lack of work/life balance really adds up. It’s just not very sustainable long term and requires entire weekends to recover from and inevitably leads to burnout. Because even with loving your job, there are still only 24 hrs in a day, and spending most of those working leaves very little time to take care of anything outside of your work life. So even if I may not be stressed out over my job, trying to get everything else in my life done in between work can cause huge amounts of stress.
    - anonzzzies 3y ago
      As someone who has been doing 7 days a week 10-12 hours for the past 30 years and never had any issues and still get up happy, well rested and no stress, I think really your job should be your life in this case ; I mean my work is my hobby, my wife works in the company as well. I don't really can see another of being. I could've retired nicely over 20 years ago but I really don't like the stuff most people spend their days doing. But the point is, I guess, it's not the hours; it's that somewhere you are still getting stress or discomfort from it and that's the problem. 10-12 hours a day leave 4+ hours for the gym, games, etc and 8 hours for sleep. I cannot see how that ever can amount to lack of sleep? Work/life balance is another thing; if you have kids this doesn't work, if you don't, it depends on how much you need I guess.