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Right? Light switches work when the microwave is on, when the light is a long way from the switch, or whatever inevitable gremlins find their way in. When you'r

Right? Light switches work when the microwave is on, when the light is a long way from the switch, or whatever inevitable gremlins find their way in. When you're talking about something that needs to just work Keep It Simple, Stupid! A few bucks in house wiring is nothing over the lifetime of the structure. Do it right.

karaterobot 3y ago
Where are you getting the "few bucks"? Just the cost of the wire itself? Electricians cost a couple hundred bucks an hour. If the answer to that is "just learn how to wire your house yourself" then I'd say that is not a feasible solution for most people. If the answer is "no, I didn't mean rewire an existing house, I meant running wire in a new construction" then I'd say that is not a feasible solution for most people either.
- webnrrd2k 3y ago
  I think it's a few bucks, relative to the cost of a house. If you're paying for an electrician, you probably own the house. Compared to the cost of a house, a one-time visit by an electrician is a small amount. And running wire in a house as it's being constructed is going to be far less expensive than doing it after the fact. I'd much rather add, for e.g., the ability to charge a car in the garage while the house is getting built, than after.
  - euroderf 3y ago
    > Compared to the cost of a house, a one-time visit by an electrician is a small amount Okay but can you fold the electrician's bill into your home loan ? No ? I thought not. It comes out of your current cash flow. Which might be hand-to-mouth for many people.
    - idiotsecant 3y ago
      Yes. Construction loans include electrical.
      - euroderf 3y ago
        Sure, the electrical that you know when you plan the house. But additional work later on too ?
        idiotsecant 3y ago
        Yes, you can get loans for home renovation if you so choose. Most people would just get in the attic and run the wire though, it's not actually that much work.
- calamari4065 3y ago
  You need a power line to the switch and a separate power line to the fixture. If this is rework or an addition, it's exactly as much work as just running a line between the switch and the fixture.
  - karaterobot 3y ago
    Perhaps. Both are more than most people want to do. I infer this from the existence of a professional class of electricians.
sagarm 3y ago
You need continuous power anyway to allow for app or remote-based control. It's really nice to be able to use a remote to turn lights on and off from my bed or desk, or use voice control when my hands are full. Plus, I can have dimmable lights even in locations with a three way switch like a hallway. Color temperature control is not really possible with hard wired controls either. I'm actually considering replacing all my switches with in-wall remotes.

karaterobot 3y ago

Where are you getting the "few bucks"? Just the cost of the wire itself? Electricians cost a couple hundred bucks an hour. If the answer to that is "just learn how to wire your house yourself" then I'd say that is not a feasible solution for most people. If the answer is "no, I didn't mean rewire an existing house, I meant running wire in a new construction" then I'd say that is not a feasible solution for most people either.

webnrrd2k 3y ago
I think it's a few bucks, relative to the cost of a house. If you're paying for an electrician, you probably own the house. Compared to the cost of a house, a one-time visit by an electrician is a small amount. And running wire in a house as it's being constructed is going to be far less expensive than doing it after the fact. I'd much rather add, for e.g., the ability to charge a car in the garage while the house is getting built, than after.
- euroderf 3y ago
  > Compared to the cost of a house, a one-time visit by an electrician is a small amount Okay but can you fold the electrician's bill into your home loan ? No ? I thought not. It comes out of your current cash flow. Which might be hand-to-mouth for many people.
  - idiotsecant 3y ago
    Yes. Construction loans include electrical.
    - euroderf 3y ago
      Sure, the electrical that you know when you plan the house. But additional work later on too ?
      - idiotsecant 3y ago
        Yes, you can get loans for home renovation if you so choose. Most people would just get in the attic and run the wire though, it's not actually that much work.
calamari4065 3y ago
You need a power line to the switch and a separate power line to the fixture. If this is rework or an addition, it's exactly as much work as just running a line between the switch and the fixture.
- karaterobot 3y ago
  Perhaps. Both are more than most people want to do. I infer this from the existence of a professional class of electricians.

sagarm 3y ago

You need continuous power anyway to allow for app or remote-based control. It's really nice to be able to use a remote to turn lights on and off from my bed or desk, or use voice control when my hands are full. Plus, I can have dimmable lights even in locations with a three way switch like a hallway. Color temperature control is not really possible with hard wired controls either. I'm actually considering replacing all my switches with in-wall remotes.