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Motherfuck! Mozilla's board and their funding projects almost makes me want to abandon Firefox and go to Chrome.

kemotep 3y ago
Despite all this nonsense about the board, Firefox remains the best browser in my experience. It isn’t cramming an AI chatbot and coupon codes during checkout into my browser experience or working to eliminate ad blocking.
- culi 3y ago
  They also don't ban and lie about anti-tracking extensions like AdNausium (a data poisoning adblocker[0]). Chrome banned it from their store. As well as other extensions like Bypass Paywalls Clean. Ultimately the Firefox addon ecosystem is simply freer [0] https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/
  - creatonez 3y ago
    AdNauseum situation was funny, you had Firefox endorsing it as a high quality ad blocker in a Mozilla press release, then Google bans it because they consider it malware. Folks have raised concerns about Mozilla's funding from Google Search, but it's pretty clear from their past actions that they see supporting ad blocking as non-negotiable. Their diverging implementation of Manifest v3, while still incomplete (it's rapidly improving in 120, most of the remaining issues are related to Fenix support and Chrome parity), is thoughtfully designed to continue to provide familiar APIs for ad blocking.
culi 3y ago
After Microsoft giving up on their rendering engine and joining the Chromium train I think the internet is in a perilous place. We're down to Blink, Gecko, and WebKit. Apple's monopoly on iOS browsers (soon to be undone) is unfortunately one of the last things keeping us from recreating the dark ages of IE's near monopoly on the market. I'd recommend at least supporting a non-Blink based browser like: * Lunascape (actually has all 3 major engines built in. Great for web dev) * Pale Moon - uses Goanna, a fork of Gecko * Waterfox - focused on speed and privacy and compatible with Firefox addons See also: Floorp, IceCat, and SeaMonkey
danaris 3y ago
This sounds very much like cutting off your nose to spite your face. The Mozilla board might be largely incompetent and/or corrupt, but they aren't actively trying to steal your data to profit from, and Firefox is still genuinely a less user-hostile product than Chrome.

Despite all this nonsense about the board, Firefox remains the best browser in my experience. It isn’t cramming an AI chatbot and coupon codes during checkout into my browser experience or working to eliminate ad blocking.

culi 3y ago
They also don't ban and lie about anti-tracking extensions like AdNausium (a data poisoning adblocker[0]). Chrome banned it from their store. As well as other extensions like Bypass Paywalls Clean. Ultimately the Firefox addon ecosystem is simply freer [0] https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/
- creatonez 3y ago
  AdNauseum situation was funny, you had Firefox endorsing it as a high quality ad blocker in a Mozilla press release, then Google bans it because they consider it malware. Folks have raised concerns about Mozilla's funding from Google Search, but it's pretty clear from their past actions that they see supporting ad blocking as non-negotiable. Their diverging implementation of Manifest v3, while still incomplete (it's rapidly improving in 120, most of the remaining issues are related to Fenix support and Chrome parity), is thoughtfully designed to continue to provide familiar APIs for ad blocking.

culi 3y ago

After Microsoft giving up on their rendering engine and joining the Chromium train I think the internet is in a perilous place. We're down to Blink, Gecko, and WebKit. Apple's monopoly on iOS browsers (soon to be undone) is unfortunately one of the last things keeping us from recreating the dark ages of IE's near monopoly on the market. I'd recommend at least supporting a non-Blink based browser like: * Lunascape (actually has all 3 major engines built in. Great for web dev) * Pale Moon - uses Goanna, a fork of Gecko * Waterfox - focused on speed and privacy and compatible with Firefox addons See also: Floorp, IceCat, and SeaMonkey

danaris 3y ago

This sounds very much like cutting off your nose to spite your face. The Mozilla board might be largely incompetent and/or corrupt, but they aren't actively trying to steal your data to profit from, and Firefox is still genuinely a less user-hostile product than Chrome.