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Last I looked Safari isn't Chrome. Also, anybody can use the Gecko web rendering engine, yet project after project after project has picked the WebKit or Blink

Last I looked Safari isn't Chrome. Also, anybody can use the Gecko web rendering engine, yet project after project after project has picked the WebKit or Blink rendering engines. And no, I haven't "shot myself in the foot" - when I replaced Firefox I found two great browsers: Brave and Vivaldi. The better question is why you continue to support a compromised organization?

glenstein 3y ago
Just to make sure I'm following along, we were talking about how youtube includes a delay of several seconds if it detects a certain ad blocking browser extension. Firefox has that browser extension, and therefore Mozilla is a "compromised organization."
- taylodl 3y ago
  You violated YouTube's T's & C's and you're complaining about Google putting you in timeout for doing so. You steal from YouTube's content creators yet present Mozilla as the good guys. Have I summed that up accurately?
  - glenstein 3y ago
    None of that was my question, so, no.
toyg 3y ago
Gecko being a mess for embedded use pre-dates the Eich affair and Baker's payday. As for Mozilla being compromised - maybe, but it's still less compromised than advertisement companies, crypto companies, tax evaders, and their likes.
croes 3y ago
Safari is a niche and is missing features. And Brave and Vivaldi are based on Chromium, so they help Google that Chromium sets the standards for the web. You already shot yourself, just didn't recognize yet. Why do you support a crooked company like Google?
- taylodl 3y ago
  > Why do you support a crooked company like Google? Get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. Other companies making significant contributions to our knowledge of computer science are AT&T, IBM, and Microsoft. Would you prefer them to Google? Also, the Firefox against the world meme is juvenile.
  - croes 3y ago
    It's not about Firefox against the world, it's we against Google and at the moment Firefox is all we have. >Get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/
    - taylodl 3y ago
      Like I said, get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. I would also consider which Big Tech company you're fighting. Last I looked, Google wasn't cited as the cause of a significant uptick in US teenagers committing suicide and being plagued with mental health issues. I could go on, but in the realm of Bad Actors in the land of Big Tech, Google is actually one of the least problematic entities.

glenstein 3y ago

Just to make sure I'm following along, we were talking about how youtube includes a delay of several seconds if it detects a certain ad blocking browser extension. Firefox has that browser extension, and therefore Mozilla is a "compromised organization."

taylodl 3y ago
You violated YouTube's T's & C's and you're complaining about Google putting you in timeout for doing so. You steal from YouTube's content creators yet present Mozilla as the good guys. Have I summed that up accurately?
- glenstein 3y ago
  None of that was my question, so, no.

toyg 3y ago

Gecko being a mess for embedded use pre-dates the Eich affair and Baker's payday. As for Mozilla being compromised - maybe, but it's still less compromised than advertisement companies, crypto companies, tax evaders, and their likes.

croes 3y ago

Safari is a niche and is missing features. And Brave and Vivaldi are based on Chromium, so they help Google that Chromium sets the standards for the web. You already shot yourself, just didn't recognize yet. Why do you support a crooked company like Google?

taylodl 3y ago
> Why do you support a crooked company like Google? Get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. Other companies making significant contributions to our knowledge of computer science are AT&T, IBM, and Microsoft. Would you prefer them to Google? Also, the Firefox against the world meme is juvenile.
- croes 3y ago
  It's not about Firefox against the world, it's we against Google and at the moment Firefox is all we have. >Get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/
  - taylodl 3y ago
    Like I said, get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. I would also consider which Big Tech company you're fighting. Last I looked, Google wasn't cited as the cause of a significant uptick in US teenagers committing suicide and being plagued with mental health issues. I could go on, but in the realm of Bad Actors in the land of Big Tech, Google is actually one of the least problematic entities.