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I don’t think it’s actually too hard to find a job right now unless your only acceptable offer comes from FAANG or adjacent. Yea, making 250k might not be an o

I don’t think it’s actually too hard to find a job right now unless your only acceptable offer comes from FAANG or adjacent. Yea, making 250k might not be an option while the market is down, but once things pick back up, you’re free to look around again. Where I live (Netherlands), we still have an insane shortage of qualified developers. Some of the vendors we work with are overloaded with work because all of their clients need their services in lieu of staff. Yeah, I don’t make 150k anymore like I did in the US South, but that’s a different conversation. The jobs are out there if you want to do honest work for a fair wage. The unicorn startups will have money again when the economy picks back up.

kaashif 3y ago
> The jobs are out there if you want to do honest work for a fair wage. If a company is making hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue from your work, I think it's totally fair to want a bigger slice of that. I do realise "fair" can also mean "considerable though not outstanding in size or amount" - in that case I agree, but I'm not sure about the word "honest" here.
- NotYourLawyer 3y ago
  1. Revenue isn’t profit. 2. “Fair” is whatever you can negotiate. You’re not entitled to any more than you can make them pay you.
  - jodrellblank 3y ago
    "Fair" and "what you can make someone do" and "what you are entitled to" are very different concepts. Turn this around to an employer "“Fair” is whatever work you can negotiate from the employee. You’re not entitled to any more work than you can make them do for you." - 1) if you can't make the employee do much work, you aren't entitled to much work, and that's fair. 2) if you can exploit the hell out of the employee, then you are entitled to do so, and that's fair.
    - NotYourLawyer 3y ago
      Correct.
- qup 3y ago
  Maybe it's fair (I don't particularly agree), but that doesn't mean you're going to get it. Someone else will take what's on offer.

kaashif 3y ago

> The jobs are out there if you want to do honest work for a fair wage. If a company is making hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue from your work, I think it's totally fair to want a bigger slice of that. I do realise "fair" can also mean "considerable though not outstanding in size or amount" - in that case I agree, but I'm not sure about the word "honest" here.

NotYourLawyer 3y ago
1. Revenue isn’t profit. 2. “Fair” is whatever you can negotiate. You’re not entitled to any more than you can make them pay you.
- jodrellblank 3y ago
  "Fair" and "what you can make someone do" and "what you are entitled to" are very different concepts. Turn this around to an employer "“Fair” is whatever work you can negotiate from the employee. You’re not entitled to any more work than you can make them do for you." - 1) if you can't make the employee do much work, you aren't entitled to much work, and that's fair. 2) if you can exploit the hell out of the employee, then you are entitled to do so, and that's fair.
  - NotYourLawyer 3y ago
    Correct.
qup 3y ago
Maybe it's fair (I don't particularly agree), but that doesn't mean you're going to get it. Someone else will take what's on offer.