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Kbelicius 3y ago
The Hague is in Netherlands and the US has threatened that it will invade if ever a US service member is brought to the international criminal court.[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr...
- Turing_Machine 3y ago
  The fact that it is located in The Hague doesn't make the ICC "the Netherlands" any more than a drug cartel based in Miami is "the United States". It's not an entity of the Netherlands government in any respect. As far as the actual country of Netherlands goes, the United States and that country have a standard extradition treaty, as the US does with most countries that have a reasonable court system that protects the rights of the accused. The US views the ICC as an illegitimate kangaroo court that does not meet the minimum standards for such protection, and thus does not recognize it any more than it would recognize, say, a terrorist-run "Islamic court". If such "courts" grab US citizens and put them "on trial", then, yeah, they shouldn't be surprised when US Navy SEALs coming crashing through their windows. That wouldn't make it an "invasion" of the country where the "court" was located, but something more akin to a hostage rescue mission.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > The US views the ICC as an illegitimate kangaroo court that does not meet the minimum standards for such protection No, it doesn't, which is why it makes referrals to the ICC. The US just believes that the US, uniquely, should not be subject to any external accountability, because it uniquely can be trusted to hold its own war criminals accountable without such external fallback.
    - Turing_Machine 3y ago
      > No, it doesn't, which is why it makes referrals to the ICC. Yes, actually, it does. https://2001-2009.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/23428.htm https://2001-2009.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/23428.htm In part: "We object, however, to the investigation or prosecution of our citizens by the ICC, whose jurisdiction we have not consented to and which lacks necessary safeguards to ensure against politically motivated investigations and prosecutions." Read the whole thing.

The Hague is in Netherlands and the US has threatened that it will invade if ever a US service member is brought to the international criminal court.[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr...

Turing_Machine 3y ago
The fact that it is located in The Hague doesn't make the ICC "the Netherlands" any more than a drug cartel based in Miami is "the United States". It's not an entity of the Netherlands government in any respect. As far as the actual country of Netherlands goes, the United States and that country have a standard extradition treaty, as the US does with most countries that have a reasonable court system that protects the rights of the accused. The US views the ICC as an illegitimate kangaroo court that does not meet the minimum standards for such protection, and thus does not recognize it any more than it would recognize, say, a terrorist-run "Islamic court". If such "courts" grab US citizens and put them "on trial", then, yeah, they shouldn't be surprised when US Navy SEALs coming crashing through their windows. That wouldn't make it an "invasion" of the country where the "court" was located, but something more akin to a hostage rescue mission.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > The US views the ICC as an illegitimate kangaroo court that does not meet the minimum standards for such protection No, it doesn't, which is why it makes referrals to the ICC. The US just believes that the US, uniquely, should not be subject to any external accountability, because it uniquely can be trusted to hold its own war criminals accountable without such external fallback.
  - Turing_Machine 3y ago
    > No, it doesn't, which is why it makes referrals to the ICC. Yes, actually, it does. https://2001-2009.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/23428.htm https://2001-2009.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/23428.htm In part: "We object, however, to the investigation or prosecution of our citizens by the ICC, whose jurisdiction we have not consented to and which lacks necessary safeguards to ensure against politically motivated investigations and prosecutions." Read the whole thing.