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I see it quite politicalized. Tesla was "cool" in Europe at a time when the center-left consumers were too naiv as to not realize that Musk is center-right. A

by lynx23 3y ago

I see it quite politicalized. Tesla was "cool" in Europe at a time when the center-left consumers were too naiv as to not realize that Musk is center-right. After the media helped to transport this, Teslas were suddenly less cool with center-leftish people. Its actually hilarious.

mrweasel 3y ago
I don't think most Tesla owners really care or perhaps even know about Musk. The brand has fade quite a bit and while it's still viewed as affordable luxury brand for many, but is also devolved into "generic electric vehicle" in other circles. Basically: You wanted an EV but could be bothered to figure out which car to get so you got the Tesla.
- lynx23 3y ago
  I have yet to meet a Tesla owner who doesn't know who Musk is.
  - mrweasel 3y ago
    They probably know who he is, but do they know about his crazy outbursts? The only reason I know that Musk is a lunatic is because HN wont shut up about his stunts in regards to Twitter. Otherwise I wouldn't have known either.
mcv 3y ago
After Musk turned from center-right to extreme-right, you mean. Inviting nazis and white supremacists to Twitter, posting antisemitic tweets, and of course union busting. That's how he's squandering his once-positive reputation. Europe has no problem with center-right politics; it is mostly center-right. It's the extreme right, racism, etc that people are very sensitive about. Also because of some unfortunate history about 80 years ago.
- lynx23 3y ago
  You just invoked godwin's law. Not very interesting "observations" you make.
  - mcv 3y ago
    Here's what Godwin has to say about it: https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320 https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320 Godwin's Law was about heated Usenet discussions that have nothing to do with politics where people would eventually end up calling each other nazis. That's a totally different situation than Elon Musk inviting actual nazis and white supremacists to Twitter, paying them for their contributions, boosting and retweeting then, and kicking out critics.

by lynx23 3y ago

mrweasel 3y ago

I don't think most Tesla owners really care or perhaps even know about Musk. The brand has fade quite a bit and while it's still viewed as affordable luxury brand for many, but is also devolved into "generic electric vehicle" in other circles. Basically: You wanted an EV but could be bothered to figure out which car to get so you got the Tesla.

lynx23 3y ago
I have yet to meet a Tesla owner who doesn't know who Musk is.
- mrweasel 3y ago
  They probably know who he is, but do they know about his crazy outbursts? The only reason I know that Musk is a lunatic is because HN wont shut up about his stunts in regards to Twitter. Otherwise I wouldn't have known either.

mcv 3y ago

After Musk turned from center-right to extreme-right, you mean. Inviting nazis and white supremacists to Twitter, posting antisemitic tweets, and of course union busting. That's how he's squandering his once-positive reputation. Europe has no problem with center-right politics; it is mostly center-right. It's the extreme right, racism, etc that people are very sensitive about. Also because of some unfortunate history about 80 years ago.

lynx23 3y ago
You just invoked godwin's law. Not very interesting "observations" you make.
- mcv 3y ago
  Here's what Godwin has to say about it: https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320 https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320 Godwin's Law was about heated Usenet discussions that have nothing to do with politics where people would eventually end up calling each other nazis. That's a totally different situation than Elon Musk inviting actual nazis and white supremacists to Twitter, paying them for their contributions, boosting and retweeting then, and kicking out critics.