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Most Eastern European cities are safe. They don't have big immigration, either.

otikik 3y ago
Most western European cities that I have visited are safe and they have big immigration. I think low immigration might be a factor in some cases, but the big thing is having a working social security net that gives people opportunities when they're down. That improves safety in all cases.
- DeathArrow 3y ago
  >big thing is having a working social security net that gives people opportunities when they're down. Bruxelles, Amsterdam, Paris have welfare. And that attracts the wrong people. I wouldn't want to wander in many neighborhoods in those cities. Budapest, Warsaw, Bucharest, Belgrade, Sofia, Prague are much safer.
  - otikik 3y ago
    > The wrong people TIL I am "the wrong people". Ok then. Have a nice life.
  - kmlx 3y ago
    > Bucharest, Belgrade, Sofia the problem in eastern europe isn’t violence. it’s cars. the deaths/injuries in those specific countries from car accidents is greater than general deaths/injuries in western countries from any reason (violence, cars, etc).
    - DeathArrow 3y ago
      Most of car related deaths or accidents are happening outside of cities.
    - vldx 3y ago
      You'll be most probably fine even in the sketchy neighborhoods in Sofia, e.g. https://youtu.be/2qmpfsW-J34?si=wR7FyFv8ocnVCJLC https://youtu.be/2qmpfsW-J34?si=wR7FyFv8ocnVCJLC The car accidents problem is real, though ... there's the half-serous saying that accidents of this type are our form of mass-shootings.
  - rat9988 3y ago
    It's not welfare that attracts people but the better economic prospects. No idea about Bruxelles and Amsterdam, but I work in Paris and it is quite safe.
soco 3y ago
I can't comment about other capitals but there are entire neighborhoods in Bucharest where police just doesn't go in. Same in Brasov - and these are just my two Romanian examples. I know it's common to blame the immigration for the issues, but let's not forget part of Western immigration also comes from the Eastern Europe.
- OfSanguineFire 3y ago
  If there are entire neighborhoods in Bucharest and Brasov, then name them. I suspect that this is complete hyperbole, because when I think of the worst and most shunned neighbourhood in Cluj – Pata Rât where the Roma population was gathered to dwell on a rubbish dump – it isn’t a dangerous, no-go area by USA or South American standards at all. I and fellow cyclists have often passed through Pata Rât at night when returning from cycling trips in the surrounding mountains, felt no danger when stopping to chat with some kids in the street curious about the bike, and the real danger is merely the fumes of burning plastic. Quite a few tourists and Erasmus students also go to get a look at that neighbourbood.
- DeathArrow 3y ago
  Living there, I don't believe you. I went often in Ferentari and never had trouble.

Most western European cities that I have visited are safe and they have big immigration. I think low immigration might be a factor in some cases, but the big thing is having a working social security net that gives people opportunities when they're down. That improves safety in all cases.

DeathArrow 3y ago
>big thing is having a working social security net that gives people opportunities when they're down. Bruxelles, Amsterdam, Paris have welfare. And that attracts the wrong people. I wouldn't want to wander in many neighborhoods in those cities. Budapest, Warsaw, Bucharest, Belgrade, Sofia, Prague are much safer.
- otikik 3y ago
  > The wrong people TIL I am "the wrong people". Ok then. Have a nice life.
- kmlx 3y ago
  > Bucharest, Belgrade, Sofia the problem in eastern europe isn’t violence. it’s cars. the deaths/injuries in those specific countries from car accidents is greater than general deaths/injuries in western countries from any reason (violence, cars, etc).
  - DeathArrow 3y ago
    Most of car related deaths or accidents are happening outside of cities.
  - vldx 3y ago
    You'll be most probably fine even in the sketchy neighborhoods in Sofia, e.g. https://youtu.be/2qmpfsW-J34?si=wR7FyFv8ocnVCJLC https://youtu.be/2qmpfsW-J34?si=wR7FyFv8ocnVCJLC The car accidents problem is real, though ... there's the half-serous saying that accidents of this type are our form of mass-shootings.
- rat9988 3y ago
  It's not welfare that attracts people but the better economic prospects. No idea about Bruxelles and Amsterdam, but I work in Paris and it is quite safe.

soco 3y ago

I can't comment about other capitals but there are entire neighborhoods in Bucharest where police just doesn't go in. Same in Brasov - and these are just my two Romanian examples. I know it's common to blame the immigration for the issues, but let's not forget part of Western immigration also comes from the Eastern Europe.

OfSanguineFire 3y ago
If there are entire neighborhoods in Bucharest and Brasov, then name them. I suspect that this is complete hyperbole, because when I think of the worst and most shunned neighbourhood in Cluj – Pata Rât where the Roma population was gathered to dwell on a rubbish dump – it isn’t a dangerous, no-go area by USA or South American standards at all. I and fellow cyclists have often passed through Pata Rât at night when returning from cycling trips in the surrounding mountains, felt no danger when stopping to chat with some kids in the street curious about the bike, and the real danger is merely the fumes of burning plastic. Quite a few tourists and Erasmus students also go to get a look at that neighbourbood.
DeathArrow 3y ago
Living there, I don't believe you. I went often in Ferentari and never had trouble.