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The conflict is not about unionisation. It is about collective agreements.
by mongol 3y ago
The conflict is not about unionisation. It is about collective agreements.
- gadders 3y agoIt's probably about left wing union activism and Twitter/X as well.
- mongol 3y agoHow so? It is pretty clear what the conflict is about, and it is not about anything of that. People may have their sentiment towards Tesla affected by Musk's antics, but it has nothing to do with the negotiation between the union and Tesla.
- ActionHank 3y agoClearly being sarcastic my guy
- gadders 3y agoYou don't think if he hadn't bought twitter/x the unions would have been quite so uncooperative?
- SiempreViernes 3y agoTesla has refused to even negotiate agreement for six years, that's not the union being uncooperative.
- mongol 3y agoNo I don't think it is part of it at all. It may motivate onlookers to cheer the union on, but it is immaterial to the conflict as such.
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- ActionHank 3y agoWhich serves to protect the workers much like unions right? Genuinely asking.
- mongol 3y agoYou can have perfectly fine conditions without a collective agreement. The conflict is not about the conditions, it is about power.
- SiempreViernes 3y agoWell, it's also about power. But at the end of the day big companies refuse collective agreements because they want the options to make conditions worse than the proposed minimum, and frequently they also have many actual employees working at below the proposed minimum already. This is the situation at Tesla Sweden, which pays wages below the market average and tries to cover the gap with stock options which Tesla is free to rescind at any time. There is also a points-system that in practice requires unpaid overtime in order to get a raise.
- mongol 3y agoSome companies are bound to have wages below market average, that is unavoidable under all circumstances, collective agreement or not. Specifics such as salary, overtime, vacation etc are more tangible and with more direct impact on working conditions. But striking for a specific type of agreement, which ties conditions in one workplace to a broader context are a different matter. That is a more strategic play which is about who sets the rules and who has the power.
- SiempreViernes 3y agoIn the Swedish business context, refraining from a collective agreement when you are the scale of Tesla is in no way a neutral choice: it is in fact an open attack on one of the central bargains of Swedish commercial society. Of course defending that bargain is unavoidably a strategic, if self evident, choice.