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If that was the case you'd see the same outcomes from Sweden, but you don't. The obvious differentiating factor seem to be oil, Norway was a poor-isj country un

If that was the case you'd see the same outcomes from Sweden, but you don't. The obvious differentiating factor seem to be oil, Norway was a poor-isj country until a few decades ago.

reducesuffering 3y ago
Sweden is far more similar to Norway than it is to the rest of the world and they don't have much oil. Oil turbocharged Norway maybe 25%. Sweden still ranks top of most metrics people prefer.
fl7305 3y ago
I'd argue that you see the same thing in Sweden as in Norway, but without the oil in Sweden's case. The music industry in Sweden is huge. Check out who wrote and produced many of the US top hits over the last 30 years. Not to speak of the local Swedish bands who make it big internationally. The software industry is also huge in Sweden (Spotify, Skype, Minecraft, Battlefield, Klarna, Candy Crush, etc). The explanation for this is largely that the kids who grew up in the late 70s and in the 80s got very good support from their parents in getting their own home computer where they could learn to program. This is very similar to young chess players in Norway. Sweden also punches well above its weight in some sports. Winter sports are kinda a given for a Nordic country, but tennis doesn't fit into that mold. Yet Sweden dominated tennis for a while. This was due to parents and society supporting young kids learning to play tennis in the 60s and 70s.
ffgjgf1 3y ago
> Norway was a poor-isj country until a few decades ago. Norway was already the richest country in Europe back in 1938. After WW2 Switzerland recovered it’s number 1 spot but in the 60s Norway still had a considerably higher GDP per capita than the Netherlands, and slightly higher than the UK and France.
doktrin 3y ago
> If that was the case you'd see the same outcomes from Sweden, but you don't. Care to expand on that? I quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. From my POV both Sweden and Denmark provide broadly similar quality of life and wealth of opportunities to their citizens.
- DeathArrow 3y ago
  Nordic countries provide opportunities only if you dislike work. The more you work, the more money you earn, the more of it the state takes from you to give to those who don't care to work.
  - doktrin 3y ago
    This in no way addresses the GP's point regarding differences between the Nordics. Seems like you're just desperately looking for any possible excuse to interject your political views no matter how left field the context.

If that was the case you'd see the same outcomes from Sweden, but you don't. The obvious differentiating factor seem to be oil, Norway was a poor-isj country until a few decades ago.

reducesuffering 3y ago

Sweden is far more similar to Norway than it is to the rest of the world and they don't have much oil. Oil turbocharged Norway maybe 25%. Sweden still ranks top of most metrics people prefer.

fl7305 3y ago

I'd argue that you see the same thing in Sweden as in Norway, but without the oil in Sweden's case. The music industry in Sweden is huge. Check out who wrote and produced many of the US top hits over the last 30 years. Not to speak of the local Swedish bands who make it big internationally. The software industry is also huge in Sweden (Spotify, Skype, Minecraft, Battlefield, Klarna, Candy Crush, etc). The explanation for this is largely that the kids who grew up in the late 70s and in the 80s got very good support from their parents in getting their own home computer where they could learn to program. This is very similar to young chess players in Norway. Sweden also punches well above its weight in some sports. Winter sports are kinda a given for a Nordic country, but tennis doesn't fit into that mold. Yet Sweden dominated tennis for a while. This was due to parents and society supporting young kids learning to play tennis in the 60s and 70s.

ffgjgf1 3y ago

> Norway was a poor-isj country until a few decades ago. Norway was already the richest country in Europe back in 1938. After WW2 Switzerland recovered it’s number 1 spot but in the 60s Norway still had a considerably higher GDP per capita than the Netherlands, and slightly higher than the UK and France.

doktrin 3y ago

> If that was the case you'd see the same outcomes from Sweden, but you don't. Care to expand on that? I quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. From my POV both Sweden and Denmark provide broadly similar quality of life and wealth of opportunities to their citizens.

DeathArrow 3y ago
Nordic countries provide opportunities only if you dislike work. The more you work, the more money you earn, the more of it the state takes from you to give to those who don't care to work.
- doktrin 3y ago
  This in no way addresses the GP's point regarding differences between the Nordics. Seems like you're just desperately looking for any possible excuse to interject your political views no matter how left field the context.