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> Arguing It's more about winning a jackpot in storage lottery. That HDD shouldn't had that data corrupted so bad, yet it did. > I've got a pile of them alrea

> Arguing It's more about winning a jackpot in storage lottery. That HDD shouldn't had that data corrupted so bad, yet it did. > I've got a pile of them already And I have at least two without actually looking in the 'cables box'. 10-15 years ago I had from five to ten of them at any time, but what about some time later? > along with the optical drive/enclsure My desktop DVD drive just quietly died after prolonged period of no usage, just being powered on. You know when I found out? When I needed to read a DVD. > Microcenter right now and buy one, they have dozens of cables in-stock in-person Now? Sure. Two years ago I even saw an Apple 30-pin cable in the same type of store (and I checked now, they still sell it, even in two colours). Would there be a 30-pin cables on sale in 10 years? Doubt so, even in 5 is questionable. And now everyone and their grandmother are moving to Type-C for everything. The same store has no Type-A -> mini-USB cables, except the weird one with additional miniJack on the Type-A side. > I can't imagine You can't. Do you still have Nokia thin charger? Moto CE-Bus? And you missed the point arguing about specifically mini-USB. Sure there are a lot of mini-USB cables out there. But at some point most of them would be in the dumpster pile. Just like Wide SCSI and FireWire cables now.

vel0city 3y ago
> That HDD shouldn't had that data corrupted so bad, yet it did. No, that sounds like just what I'd expect from magnetic storage. > Now? Sure. Well yeah, you specifically scoped it to today in your comment with the words "right now". And no, it's not the weird multi-head variety, they have just regular USB-A to mini-USB. And then thanks for showing that even a decade after the dock connector was phased out it's still easily to find the cables in store today. And thanks for pointing out there's multiple varieties of MiniUSB cables sold today, really reinforcing the idea it's still easy to find. https://www.microcenter.com/product/263914/qvs-cc2215m-06-usb-mini-b-sync-charger-high-speed-cable https://www.microcenter.com/product/263914/qvs-cc2215m-06-us... > Do you still have Nokia thin charger? Moto CE-Bus? No, but neither of those were even a fraction of market penetration as MiniUSB. My household maybe had one Nokia charger that wasn't just a barrel (of which yes we still have compatible barrel connectors despite being nearly 30 years since). Meanwhile my household has probably received close to 50+ MiniUSB cables over the decades. Are you seriously arguing Moto CE-Bus was as popular as MiniUSB? > Just like Wide SCSI and FireWire cables now. Well if they're like SCSI and Firewire cables today I guess I shouldn't have a problem. There's Firewire in-stock in-person at Microcenter today, right now, as well. eBay and Amazon has tons of listings for SCSI cables, I could get a dozen in just a few days. So it sounds like it should be pretty easy to find MiniUSB if Firewire is the earlier example.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  Sigh. I expilicitly said there is 1 (one) miniUSB cable available at my local MC co7nterpart, and it's not even a generic one. Dock connector is rarer than miniUSB (I don't think you would argue that?) and the reason it is still there is probably because this is an old stock. As soon as the sales drop low enough it would be in the landfill, just like USB floppies and miniUSB cables in the stores near me. miniUSB wasn't the best example but right now (and it was my point in the first place) it goes through the same process it did with all the serial and custom data ports 15 years ago. You nd me wouldn't have trouble procuring miniUSB for a couple decades (cable box!) but overall their availability would decline and in 10 years an Average Joe would need to search if he would need to plug in an old WD Passport from 2005. edit: > No, that sounds like just what I'd expect from magnetic storage. No, that is not what I expect from an hdd. I've seen mulitple failures in my life, that was quite atypical. Most drives from that era or dead mechanically or fine, but not that
  - vel0city 3y ago
    Sigh. I guess Average Joes just can't figure out the complex ordering or Amazon or eBay. Because by your own examples of actually common, as in even remotely as common as MiniUSB, they're on there. You need a 25-pin serial cable? How long? What color? You need a SCSI terminator? You think those were even as remotely as common as MiniUSB? How many are on eBay right now? There's at least five pages of listings and I imagine there were many many times more MiniUSB cables out there. And even then, that's fine. It's still not going to limit me from playing back my optical disks. They made optical drives with IDE, SATA, MiniUSB, micro USB, USB-B, eSATA, SCSI, etc. What are the odds all of these, along with all potential adapters, disappear? Sigh. > I've seen mulitple failures in my life, that was quite atypical. I've seen that exact same kind of failure close to a dozen times in my life, mostly from a select few models iirc. Then again though my sample size of magnetic drives is probably >300 or so, a bit atypical id imagine. It's not an extremely rare thing to happen especially to low power 2.5" portable drives powered by USB. And finally... Sigh. https://www.ebay.com/itm/325911999375 https://www.ebay.com/itm/325911999375

vel0city 3y ago

> That HDD shouldn't had that data corrupted so bad, yet it did. No, that sounds like just what I'd expect from magnetic storage. > Now? Sure. Well yeah, you specifically scoped it to today in your comment with the words "right now". And no, it's not the weird multi-head variety, they have just regular USB-A to mini-USB. And then thanks for showing that even a decade after the dock connector was phased out it's still easily to find the cables in store today. And thanks for pointing out there's multiple varieties of MiniUSB cables sold today, really reinforcing the idea it's still easy to find. https://www.microcenter.com/product/263914/qvs-cc2215m-06-usb-mini-b-sync-charger-high-speed-cable https://www.microcenter.com/product/263914/qvs-cc2215m-06-us... > Do you still have Nokia thin charger? Moto CE-Bus? No, but neither of those were even a fraction of market penetration as MiniUSB. My household maybe had one Nokia charger that wasn't just a barrel (of which yes we still have compatible barrel connectors despite being nearly 30 years since). Meanwhile my household has probably received close to 50+ MiniUSB cables over the decades. Are you seriously arguing Moto CE-Bus was as popular as MiniUSB? > Just like Wide SCSI and FireWire cables now. Well if they're like SCSI and Firewire cables today I guess I shouldn't have a problem. There's Firewire in-stock in-person at Microcenter today, right now, as well. eBay and Amazon has tons of listings for SCSI cables, I could get a dozen in just a few days. So it sounds like it should be pretty easy to find MiniUSB if Firewire is the earlier example.

justsomehnguy 3y ago
Sigh. I expilicitly said there is 1 (one) miniUSB cable available at my local MC co7nterpart, and it's not even a generic one. Dock connector is rarer than miniUSB (I don't think you would argue that?) and the reason it is still there is probably because this is an old stock. As soon as the sales drop low enough it would be in the landfill, just like USB floppies and miniUSB cables in the stores near me. miniUSB wasn't the best example but right now (and it was my point in the first place) it goes through the same process it did with all the serial and custom data ports 15 years ago. You nd me wouldn't have trouble procuring miniUSB for a couple decades (cable box!) but overall their availability would decline and in 10 years an Average Joe would need to search if he would need to plug in an old WD Passport from 2005. edit: > No, that sounds like just what I'd expect from magnetic storage. No, that is not what I expect from an hdd. I've seen mulitple failures in my life, that was quite atypical. Most drives from that era or dead mechanically or fine, but not that
- vel0city 3y ago
  Sigh. I guess Average Joes just can't figure out the complex ordering or Amazon or eBay. Because by your own examples of actually common, as in even remotely as common as MiniUSB, they're on there. You need a 25-pin serial cable? How long? What color? You need a SCSI terminator? You think those were even as remotely as common as MiniUSB? How many are on eBay right now? There's at least five pages of listings and I imagine there were many many times more MiniUSB cables out there. And even then, that's fine. It's still not going to limit me from playing back my optical disks. They made optical drives with IDE, SATA, MiniUSB, micro USB, USB-B, eSATA, SCSI, etc. What are the odds all of these, along with all potential adapters, disappear? Sigh. > I've seen mulitple failures in my life, that was quite atypical. I've seen that exact same kind of failure close to a dozen times in my life, mostly from a select few models iirc. Then again though my sample size of magnetic drives is probably >300 or so, a bit atypical id imagine. It's not an extremely rare thing to happen especially to low power 2.5" portable drives powered by USB. And finally... Sigh. https://www.ebay.com/itm/325911999375 https://www.ebay.com/itm/325911999375