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Would someone explain why it’s okay on HN to make a remark like “very white” in this way?

by itisit 3y ago

syndicatedjelly 3y ago
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- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  I thought that ended when all the DEI folks got fired
financltravsty 3y ago
No white people were oppressed in the making of this statement. Though I would like us to move the pendulum back towards being more… open about the faults of different ethnicities, nationalities, and cultures besides the Western one — without being hateful about it. In the case of the American “white” culture the cons are obviously: boring, gentrifying, lack of culture, lack of risk taking or openness to (real) new experience, lame, orthodox, etc. It’s a real aspect of locales that’s important to take into consideration. Just the same as it is for any other culture: if you’re in a place dominated by it, and you’re not part of the group, you will have a hard time acclimating and fitting in. If you’re not American “white” then you might find Seattle boring or unwelcoming.
- itisit 3y ago
  Why is there a double standard though? How are your comments not viewed as racist? Should you make the same kind of remarks about the culture and stereotypes of a different ethnicity/race, you almost certainly wouldn't be met with tolerance.
  - financltravsty 3y ago
    It's the zeitgeist right now, and has been for a while. There are many causes and reinforcers for it, but the mania around it is dying down if it's any consolation. On a more personal note, I only believe racism to be "racist" when it's coming from a place of hate. Commenting on other ethnicities/cultures/etc. is standard everywhere outside of the primarily English speaking countries. For example, latinos are flaky, jewish people are fussy, eastern europeans are superstitious, african americans are loud, the french are self-important, the japanese are self-effacing, the british have no taste, and american white people are boring. Whether this comment is met with intolerance is a non-issue for me. Say what you believe, so long as you're civil, and then accept other people will not agree with you.
    - itisit 3y ago
      Agree wholeheartedly. Made a comment in the very same vein and was flagged.

Would someone explain why it’s okay on HN to make a remark like “very white” in this way?

by itisit 3y ago

Would someone explain why it’s okay on HN to make a remark like “very white” in this way?

syndicatedjelly 3y ago

[flagged]

red-iron-pine 3y ago
I thought that ended when all the DEI folks got fired

financltravsty 3y ago

No white people were oppressed in the making of this statement. Though I would like us to move the pendulum back towards being more… open about the faults of different ethnicities, nationalities, and cultures besides the Western one — without being hateful about it. In the case of the American “white” culture the cons are obviously: boring, gentrifying, lack of culture, lack of risk taking or openness to (real) new experience, lame, orthodox, etc. It’s a real aspect of locales that’s important to take into consideration. Just the same as it is for any other culture: if you’re in a place dominated by it, and you’re not part of the group, you will have a hard time acclimating and fitting in. If you’re not American “white” then you might find Seattle boring or unwelcoming.

itisit 3y ago
Why is there a double standard though? How are your comments not viewed as racist? Should you make the same kind of remarks about the culture and stereotypes of a different ethnicity/race, you almost certainly wouldn't be met with tolerance.
- financltravsty 3y ago
  It's the zeitgeist right now, and has been for a while. There are many causes and reinforcers for it, but the mania around it is dying down if it's any consolation. On a more personal note, I only believe racism to be "racist" when it's coming from a place of hate. Commenting on other ethnicities/cultures/etc. is standard everywhere outside of the primarily English speaking countries. For example, latinos are flaky, jewish people are fussy, eastern europeans are superstitious, african americans are loud, the french are self-important, the japanese are self-effacing, the british have no taste, and american white people are boring. Whether this comment is met with intolerance is a non-issue for me. Say what you believe, so long as you're civil, and then accept other people will not agree with you.
  - itisit 3y ago
    Agree wholeheartedly. Made a comment in the very same vein and was flagged.