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This is going to be a big step forward for women in videogames - namely, women playing them. The story seems to be hinting at a love story between the two char

This is going to be a big step forward for women in videogames - namely, women playing them. The story seems to be hinting at a love story between the two characters, and seems to heavily imply that co-op gaming will be a big part of the experience. Imagine, the man who is obsessed with videogames and especially GTA, will be able to play through the whole game together with his girl. They will be, literally, partners in crime. It could inspire a brand new generation of female gamers, who never had the patience to sit through the ingenious yet childish caricature of America that the previous games ushered in.

fennecfoxy 3y ago
As a gay man I still play games that don't have gay characters in them (even though I wish there were more). I don't believe women differ from myself at all and I don't think the character's background matters as long as the general platform is diverse. I'm sure women will play games with female main characters, male main character etc in the same way that I'll play games with straight main characters and gay main characters alike. Seems kind of sexist to imply otherwise, and your proposed scenario is so heteronormative: the woman too impatient to play other GTAs is only playing this one because it because it has a female character and she's a woman so that's who she should play, and it's appealing to her because the story revolves around the relationship between a man and a woman and that's what women like. Na, don't think so.
- mikhael28 3y ago
  ‘As long as the general platform is diverse’ Which frankly does not describe the history of what GTA offers. All male characters, all gangster/mob/drug dealer archetypes. Do your seriously not believe a change in tone, story and character wouldn’t bring in new fans? Who found the old tone childish and immature - hard to relate with? Give me a break.
ionwake 3y ago
You’re saying you hope this game inspires impatient females? I’m honestly not trolling - isn’t a statement like this inherently sexist? Why would women not like a “childish” game? I know you didn’t mean to offend but I’m unsure of the message I’m getting the impression the way culture is heading is there is to be less focusing on differences Please correct me if I’m wrong
- mikhael28 3y ago
  This conversation that you are trying to start is a total dead-end. Consider the idea that you might have totally misinterpreted what I said.
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  - ionwake 3y ago
    "Please correct me if I am wrong" means I may have totally misinterpreted what you said, so there is no need to ask me to consider this, but its cool if english is not your first language. All the best thanks, don't worry about the dead-end, have a good evening.
- pornel 3y ago
  It's not inherently sexist to point out differences between sexes, especially in context that isn't discriminatory. There are also practical differences due to environment and culture, not biology. In case of games, usually the problem is that the stories are written from a perspective of a male fantasy, where role of women is reduced to just being a pretty accessory. "Dead hooker" jokes aren't equally funny to everyone. Whether this game will be more appealing to women remains to be seen. It's not merely about having a female-looking avatar, but about having an intereresting character that women would want to see themselves as, and not feel objectified (which games sometimes fail with things like bikini armor, or on the other end overdoing the trope of a "strong female character" to the point of being a boring cliche).
IdiranVibe 3y ago
I wouldn't expect for coop gaming to be part of the experience. V had 3 protagonists but the story was all entirely single player and I doubt R* will be moving on from their tradition of single player RPGs.
- mikhael28 3y ago
  Yeah, they will always have single player, but co-op single player campaigns are a thing. If it’s until 2025, plenty of time to bake that in. I think that for them, this would be another evolution in the boundaries they push as a studio.

fennecfoxy 3y ago

As a gay man I still play games that don't have gay characters in them (even though I wish there were more). I don't believe women differ from myself at all and I don't think the character's background matters as long as the general platform is diverse. I'm sure women will play games with female main characters, male main character etc in the same way that I'll play games with straight main characters and gay main characters alike. Seems kind of sexist to imply otherwise, and your proposed scenario is so heteronormative: the woman too impatient to play other GTAs is only playing this one because it because it has a female character and she's a woman so that's who she should play, and it's appealing to her because the story revolves around the relationship between a man and a woman and that's what women like. Na, don't think so.

mikhael28 3y ago
‘As long as the general platform is diverse’ Which frankly does not describe the history of what GTA offers. All male characters, all gangster/mob/drug dealer archetypes. Do your seriously not believe a change in tone, story and character wouldn’t bring in new fans? Who found the old tone childish and immature - hard to relate with? Give me a break.

ionwake 3y ago

You’re saying you hope this game inspires impatient females? I’m honestly not trolling - isn’t a statement like this inherently sexist? Why would women not like a “childish” game? I know you didn’t mean to offend but I’m unsure of the message I’m getting the impression the way culture is heading is there is to be less focusing on differences Please correct me if I’m wrong

mikhael28 3y ago
This conversation that you are trying to start is a total dead-end. Consider the idea that you might have totally misinterpreted what I said.
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- ionwake 3y ago
  "Please correct me if I am wrong" means I may have totally misinterpreted what you said, so there is no need to ask me to consider this, but its cool if english is not your first language. All the best thanks, don't worry about the dead-end, have a good evening.
pornel 3y ago
It's not inherently sexist to point out differences between sexes, especially in context that isn't discriminatory. There are also practical differences due to environment and culture, not biology. In case of games, usually the problem is that the stories are written from a perspective of a male fantasy, where role of women is reduced to just being a pretty accessory. "Dead hooker" jokes aren't equally funny to everyone. Whether this game will be more appealing to women remains to be seen. It's not merely about having a female-looking avatar, but about having an intereresting character that women would want to see themselves as, and not feel objectified (which games sometimes fail with things like bikini armor, or on the other end overdoing the trope of a "strong female character" to the point of being a boring cliche).

IdiranVibe 3y ago

I wouldn't expect for coop gaming to be part of the experience. V had 3 protagonists but the story was all entirely single player and I doubt R* will be moving on from their tradition of single player RPGs.

mikhael28 3y ago
Yeah, they will always have single player, but co-op single player campaigns are a thing. If it’s until 2025, plenty of time to bake that in. I think that for them, this would be another evolution in the boundaries they push as a studio.