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Nobody does hard time for stealing a loaf of bread, but sure keep ranting..

by boeingUH60 3y ago

financltravsty 3y ago
USSR? China? Malaysia? Saudi Arabia? Iran? USA if the police and DA want to make an example?
- adrr 3y ago
  I doubt anyone does any jail time for stealing bread unless they are habitual offender(multiple felony convictions) or its aggravated theft(eg: by force/violence). Court cases are public so feel free to prove me wrong.
  - financltravsty 3y ago
    Todd Hutchinson (bread, candy, and a radio -- U.S.A), Elkeno Wallace (hot dog buns -- Bahamas), Jean Valjean (self-evident), numerous gulag victims (see: Solzhenitsyn), unnamed father who got his hand and foot chopped off for stealing a bag of flour in Syria, etc.
    - duskwuff 3y ago
      > Jean Valjean (self-evident) Jean Valjean is a character in a novel, not a real person, and is about as relevant to this discussion as a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk.
      - financltravsty 3y ago
        Apparently not self-evident! A.k.a Eugène Vidocq
        mkl 3y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vidocq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vido... says he stole a lot of money from his parents' bakery, but wasn't imprisoned for that (though was for plenty of other crimes).
        financltravsty 3y ago
        Yes, he was a criminal since 14 (maybe earlier) -- facing his first stint at that age. It's debatable whether his reputation followed him in those days, having bounced around towns and cities so much. But he did steal bread later on in his life to -- if Hugo is to be accepted a reliable witness -- feed his family at the time. For this he was imprisoned almost immediately, leading to the creation of Jean Valjean.
  - ponector 3y ago
    From the past: USSR applied a death sentence for stealing grains from the already harvested field. Nowadays Taliban do hands amputation as punishment for stealing(not sure about stealing bread, though).
evan_ 3y ago
Tell that to Jean Valjean.
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  I don't know how to tell you this, but Jean Valjean is a fictional character.
  - ta1243 3y ago
    Based on real punishments. And people had their hands chopped off for petty theft too. The historical element is more relevant. In the UK (and perhaps the US) in 1723 it was made illegal to hunt a rabbit - punishable by death.
  - evan_ 3y ago
    fine- Aladdin, then
    - BobaFloutist 3y ago
      Fair enough
InCityDreams 3y ago
3rd strike law? I knew someone that did 14 days for stealing a frozen chicken. Repeat offender...the judge may have been fed up for all the other crap from previous and decided to go full max.

Nobody does hard time for stealing a loaf of bread, but sure keep ranting..

financltravsty 3y ago

USSR? China? Malaysia? Saudi Arabia? Iran? USA if the police and DA want to make an example?

adrr 3y ago
I doubt anyone does any jail time for stealing bread unless they are habitual offender(multiple felony convictions) or its aggravated theft(eg: by force/violence). Court cases are public so feel free to prove me wrong.
- financltravsty 3y ago
  Todd Hutchinson (bread, candy, and a radio -- U.S.A), Elkeno Wallace (hot dog buns -- Bahamas), Jean Valjean (self-evident), numerous gulag victims (see: Solzhenitsyn), unnamed father who got his hand and foot chopped off for stealing a bag of flour in Syria, etc.
  - duskwuff 3y ago
    > Jean Valjean (self-evident) Jean Valjean is a character in a novel, not a real person, and is about as relevant to this discussion as a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk.
    - financltravsty 3y ago
      Apparently not self-evident! A.k.a Eugène Vidocq
      - mkl 3y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vidocq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vido... says he stole a lot of money from his parents' bakery, but wasn't imprisoned for that (though was for plenty of other crimes).
        financltravsty 3y ago
        Yes, he was a criminal since 14 (maybe earlier) -- facing his first stint at that age. It's debatable whether his reputation followed him in those days, having bounced around towns and cities so much. But he did steal bread later on in his life to -- if Hugo is to be accepted a reliable witness -- feed his family at the time. For this he was imprisoned almost immediately, leading to the creation of Jean Valjean.
- ponector 3y ago
  From the past: USSR applied a death sentence for stealing grains from the already harvested field. Nowadays Taliban do hands amputation as punishment for stealing(not sure about stealing bread, though).

evan_ 3y ago

Tell that to Jean Valjean.

BobaFloutist 3y ago
I don't know how to tell you this, but Jean Valjean is a fictional character.
- ta1243 3y ago
  Based on real punishments. And people had their hands chopped off for petty theft too. The historical element is more relevant. In the UK (and perhaps the US) in 1723 it was made illegal to hunt a rabbit - punishable by death.
- evan_ 3y ago
  fine- Aladdin, then
  - BobaFloutist 3y ago
    Fair enough

InCityDreams 3y ago

3rd strike law? I knew someone that did 14 days for stealing a frozen chicken. Repeat offender...the judge may have been fed up for all the other crap from previous and decided to go full max.