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Indeed, it would be better if doordash would just hire full time employees. And vet them before hiring with a regular interview process. Instead of constant pun

Indeed, it would be better if doordash would just hire full time employees. And vet them before hiring with a regular interview process. Instead of constant punitive surveillance with the threat of instant unemployment. Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Picking up jobs to write a single function. And if youre too slow, or one too many tests fail you get sacked.

zachkatz 3y ago
The “problem” is that many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work, so this option would be jeopardizing a large part of their workforce (bad for DoorDash) while also being bad for the workers themselves (who aren’t exactly swimming in job options). I’m not making a value judgement here, just weighing in with a tradeoff to consider.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work Woah. Are you saying these people are illegal immigrants, or don't have a work visa? I never heard this before. That is a bold claim. Do you have any evidence to share? I tried Googling, but I couldn't find anything.
  - zachkatz 3y ago
    Illegal immigrants. Here are some sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/nyregion/migrant-delivery-unlicensed-moped.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/nyregion/migrant-delivery... https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/tidal-wave-of-migrants-in-nyc-sparks-black-market-for-food-delivery-workers/ https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/tidal-wave-of-migrants-in-nyc-... https://gothamist.com/news/doordash-legal-group-set-to-deliver-free-legal-clinics-on-immigration-to-workers https://gothamist.com/news/doordash-legal-group-set-to-deliv...
xkekjrktllss 3y ago
>Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Mine is. We have stack ranking and it's a living nightmare.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  Weekly or monthly stack ranking? I doubt it. Probably annual or twice-yearly reviews. And how much of the stack is released for poor performance during each review? 5/10/15%? Still: Nothing compared to being a DoorDash delivery person.

zachkatz 3y ago

The “problem” is that many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work, so this option would be jeopardizing a large part of their workforce (bad for DoorDash) while also being bad for the workers themselves (who aren’t exactly swimming in job options). I’m not making a value judgement here, just weighing in with a tradeoff to consider.

throwaway2037 3y ago
many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work Woah. Are you saying these people are illegal immigrants, or don't have a work visa? I never heard this before. That is a bold claim. Do you have any evidence to share? I tried Googling, but I couldn't find anything.
- zachkatz 3y ago
  Illegal immigrants. Here are some sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/nyregion/migrant-delivery-unlicensed-moped.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/nyregion/migrant-delivery... https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/tidal-wave-of-migrants-in-nyc-sparks-black-market-for-food-delivery-workers/ https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/tidal-wave-of-migrants-in-nyc-... https://gothamist.com/news/doordash-legal-group-set-to-deliver-free-legal-clinics-on-immigration-to-workers https://gothamist.com/news/doordash-legal-group-set-to-deliv...

xkekjrktllss 3y ago

>Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Mine is. We have stack ranking and it's a living nightmare.

throwaway2037 3y ago
Weekly or monthly stack ranking? I doubt it. Probably annual or twice-yearly reviews. And how much of the stack is released for poor performance during each review? 5/10/15%? Still: Nothing compared to being a DoorDash delivery person.