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> There isn't a law that prevents you from intentionally crashing other vehicles. Just around property damage and endangering other people. You can probably do

> There isn't a law that prevents you from intentionally crashing other vehicles. Just around property damage and endangering other people. You can probably do whatever you want with your private vehicle on your private land. But on public roads you need a license to operate, and you must operate the vehicle in certain prescribed ways. Similarly you can probably do whatever you want with your private air vehicle while it sits on your private land, but when you are operating in public air space then you must operate in the ways prescribed by your pilot license.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> can probably do whatever you want with your private vehicle on your private land Sort of. Own plane, own land and a filed flight path should satisfy the FAA's requirements, though you may also need to take active measures to ensure your private land is clear of things that could be harmed. After that, there is the environmental component. Our influencer here not only inundated the crash site with leaded avgas, but likely also sprinkled it all the way to the hangar. Given the track record of decision making, I have no hope he disposed of the parts properly, either.
- pavel_lishin 3y ago
  > Given the track record of decision making, I have no hope he disposed of the parts properly, either. Your instincts are correct: > Jacob drove the wreckage to Lompoc City Airport and unloaded it in a hangar. He then cut up and destroyed the airplane wreckage and, over the course of a few days, deposited the detached parts of the wrecked airplane into trash bins at the airport and elsewhere
- throw0101b 3y ago
  > Own plane, own land and a filed flight path should satisfy the FAA's requirements, though you may also need to take active measures to ensure your private land is clear of things that could be harmed. If he had a private air field/airport and "landed" (crashed) the plane on his air field, then that could be argued, but there's still the fact that he bailed out of the airplane and left it in an uncontrolled state, in which case there's probably some kind of 'reckless' charge that could be thrown at him.
  - masklinn 3y ago
    Otoh people crash stuff on the reg (crash tests, stunts, …) and an unoccupied plane should be quite predictable. If you can demonstrate that you secured the area and it is large enough there is low-to-no chances of the plane getting out from bailout conditions everyone woukd likely be satisfied.
    - krisoft 3y ago
      > you can demonstrate that you secured the area and it is large enough there is low-to-no chances of the plane getting out from bailout conditions You are probably underestimating how wast that area must be to do that.
      - masklinn 3y ago
        pray tell how can I be under-estimating when I am not estimating anything in the first place.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> can probably do whatever you want with your private vehicle on your private land Sort of. Own plane, own land and a filed flight path should satisfy the FAA's requirements, though you may also need to take active measures to ensure your private land is clear of things that could be harmed. After that, there is the environmental component. Our influencer here not only inundated the crash site with leaded avgas, but likely also sprinkled it all the way to the hangar. Given the track record of decision making, I have no hope he disposed of the parts properly, either.

pavel_lishin 3y ago
> Given the track record of decision making, I have no hope he disposed of the parts properly, either. Your instincts are correct: > Jacob drove the wreckage to Lompoc City Airport and unloaded it in a hangar. He then cut up and destroyed the airplane wreckage and, over the course of a few days, deposited the detached parts of the wrecked airplane into trash bins at the airport and elsewhere
throw0101b 3y ago
> Own plane, own land and a filed flight path should satisfy the FAA's requirements, though you may also need to take active measures to ensure your private land is clear of things that could be harmed. If he had a private air field/airport and "landed" (crashed) the plane on his air field, then that could be argued, but there's still the fact that he bailed out of the airplane and left it in an uncontrolled state, in which case there's probably some kind of 'reckless' charge that could be thrown at him.
- masklinn 3y ago
  Otoh people crash stuff on the reg (crash tests, stunts, …) and an unoccupied plane should be quite predictable. If you can demonstrate that you secured the area and it is large enough there is low-to-no chances of the plane getting out from bailout conditions everyone woukd likely be satisfied.
  - krisoft 3y ago
    > you can demonstrate that you secured the area and it is large enough there is low-to-no chances of the plane getting out from bailout conditions You are probably underestimating how wast that area must be to do that.
    - masklinn 3y ago
      pray tell how can I be under-estimating when I am not estimating anything in the first place.