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A federal felony and a 6-month prison sentence, on their own, would almost certainly tip the scales to "not worth it". I wouldn't be surprised if there were als
by duskwuff 3y ago
A federal felony and a 6-month prison sentence, on their own, would almost certainly tip the scales to "not worth it". I wouldn't be surprised if there were also a disgorgement involved.
- mozman 3y agoIt’s a big black mark on your reputation, it’s rarely worth it. He could have injured or killed someone for a video. Crime doesn’t pay
- ta1243 3y agoLarge companies commit crime constantly and make it pay, the fines they incur are simply counted a cost of doing business
- adrr 3y agoThey don't regularly commit crimes though. They commit regulatory violations. There's a big difference. Like getting a parking ticket versus being convicted for a felony. Ones that get convicted like Purdue Pharma are fined so heavily they are forced to close. Or they could just be banned from doing business like Arthur Anderson when they had to surrender their CPA licenses and forgo rights to practice.
- titzer 3y agoSteal a loaf of bread, do hard time. Steal $5 here and there millions of times over from unsuspecting customers with completely made-up junk fees, and it's an FTC fine...after years of haggling in court. The magic of indirection!
- boeingUH60 3y agoNobody does hard time for stealing a loaf of bread, but sure keep ranting..
- financltravsty 3y agoUSSR? China? Malaysia? Saudi Arabia? Iran? USA if the police and DA want to make an example?
- adrr 3y agoI doubt anyone does any jail time for stealing bread unless they are habitual offender(multiple felony convictions) or its aggravated theft(eg: by force/violence). Court cases are public so feel free to prove me wrong.
- financltravsty 3y agoTodd Hutchinson (bread, candy, and a radio -- U.S.A), Elkeno Wallace (hot dog buns -- Bahamas), Jean Valjean (self-evident), numerous gulag victims (see: Solzhenitsyn), unnamed father who got his hand and foot chopped off for stealing a bag of flour in Syria, etc.
- duskwuff 3y ago> Jean Valjean (self-evident) Jean Valjean is a character in a novel, not a real person, and is about as relevant to this discussion as a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk.
- financltravsty 3y agoApparently not self-evident! A.k.a Eugène Vidocq
- mkl 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vidocq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vido... says he stole a lot of money from his parents' bakery, but wasn't imprisoned for that (though was for plenty of other crimes).
- financltravsty 3y agoFraud, conspiracy, and wage theft are the common ones that companies commit every day. How many times have people been fraudulently misled about the scope and responsibilities of their roles? How many times have companies misclassified workers or denied overtime pay? How many times have companies lied about their products and services? How many times have big tech companies conspired to keep wages down? How many private equity and pharmaceutical companies have engaged in profiteering? They regularly commit crimes. Though the definition of crime is constantly being patched with loopholes by lobbyists and other well-connected jackals. The Overton window keeps on shifting. It's just a power battle between people more powerful than you.
- paulpauper 3y agoIt’s a big black mark on your reputation, it’s rarely worth it. Maybe if he was applying for a job at the FAA, as a pilot, or as a school teacher. but for a professional youtuber, not so much.
- TerrifiedMouse 3y agoIt does close those doors though.
- dzhiurgis 3y ago> He could have injured or killed someone for a video. I'm pretty sure you are more likely to kill someone driving to work today than crashing a plane in some random as forest.
- constantly 3y agoBut you’re more likely to kill someone when the remote forest fire you sparked by intentionally crashing your plane grew and took out a bunch of firefighters and a village than you are to kill someone driving to work.
- goles 3y agoKilling someone driving to work so you can pay for rent/mortgage/groceries is somewhat different than putting Go Pros on your car and deliberately crashing into someone so you can pay for rent/mortgage/groceries.
- closewith 3y agoCrime often pays. That's part of why it's so popular.
- gorgoiler 3y agoI agree with you of course but I wonder how wise it is for governments to follow the strategy of felonies being irrevocable black marks? That is to say if we rely on the permanent reputation taint as a deterrent then once you’ve been tainted are you not now much more likely to go do more harmful, felonious things? I don’t know much about felonies though — perhaps they can be expunged after X years of good behaviour?
- zlg_codes 3y agoTell me what 6 months in a cage and financial ruin will do to teach someone about a victimless crime. Justice is not in play here. The punishment should match the crime.
- blackoil 3y ago> Tell me what 6 months in a cage and financial ruin will do to teach someone about a victimless crime. Don't do victimless crimes. If you have already done it, don't cover it up. And if you have to do it all, don't do it stupid.
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- ponector 3y agoDo you think this youtuber should not be punished with prison time? So any other kid can do the same knowing they will not be punished?
- zlg_codes 3y agoNo, I don't. Lecture the guy about how to do it correctly, maybe make him pay for the pollution he caused or something. Locking him away solves nothing.
- olyjohn 3y agoLecture him about doing what correctly? Tell him how to fly an illegal airplane, better fake a plane crash, cut up the plane and throw it in the trash to cover it up, lie to the FAA, break regulations, potentially endanger people's lives, and lie to millions of people about it for views on YouTube? Then pay for the $100 in fuel that he spilled, that can't really be cleaned up anyways? This guy already has no respect for anybody, what makes you think he'll listen to a "stern lecture?"
- zero_shift 3y agoHe will also never fly again.
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoBeing an entitled dickhead, endangering the public and flaunting basic rules of decent society - pretty much in the 'don't do it' column. Worth it? If your ethics are worthless an argument could be made. But there's no conversion between character and cash; it's a null set.