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I have a bone to pick with the use of Fn-F to go full-screen in TV.app, Quicktime etc.: it's a stupid shortcut. For years, the built-in video apps used Cmd-F...

I have a bone to pick with the use of Fn-F to go full-screen in TV.app, Quicktime etc.: it's a stupid shortcut. For years, the built-in video apps used Cmd-F...i.e. using the same modifier they continue to use for all other shortcuts. I can't understand why Apple changed it. It's inconsistent both compared to long-established convention and compared to all other shortcuts. And it relies on a key that your keyboard might not even have. Now if you're using an external keyboard that doesn't have a Fn key built by Apple, there's no way to go fullscreen from the keyboard (until you add the shortcut in the Keyboard section of System Settings). At least VLC knows the score and keeps Full Screen mapped to Cmd-F. Sadly, iTerm now uses the new convention.

bobbylarrybobby 3y ago
Because ⌘F is Find in every app, and Fn F is Full Screen in every app. There isn't really a reason to change those two for any particular apps.
- Jtsummers 3y ago
  It used to be ⌘^f on macOS to fullscreen any window. Now it's fn-f which is nowhere near as convenient on all of Apple's keyboards. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-... The fn key is to the right of delete, it's not terribly suitable for use in key combinations. This seems ill-chosen on Apple's part.
  - Kwpolska 3y ago
    Apple famously doesn’t care about things that are non-default settings/customizations/off-the-beaten-track. The standard Apple keyboard is a 60% keyboard (Bluetooth or laptop). And on those keyboards, fn is in the bottom left corner, which is fine for keyboard shortcuts.
- xkekjrktllss 3y ago
  >There isn't really a reason... Direct quote of parent giving the reason: "if you're using an external keyboard that doesn't have a Fn key built by Apple, there's no way to go fullscreen from the keyboard"

bobbylarrybobby 3y ago

Because ⌘F is Find in every app, and Fn F is Full Screen in every app. There isn't really a reason to change those two for any particular apps.

Jtsummers 3y ago
It used to be ⌘^f on macOS to fullscreen any window. Now it's fn-f which is nowhere near as convenient on all of Apple's keyboards. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-... The fn key is to the right of delete, it's not terribly suitable for use in key combinations. This seems ill-chosen on Apple's part.
- Kwpolska 3y ago
  Apple famously doesn’t care about things that are non-default settings/customizations/off-the-beaten-track. The standard Apple keyboard is a 60% keyboard (Bluetooth or laptop). And on those keyboards, fn is in the bottom left corner, which is fine for keyboard shortcuts.
xkekjrktllss 3y ago
>There isn't really a reason... Direct quote of parent giving the reason: "if you're using an external keyboard that doesn't have a Fn key built by Apple, there's no way to go fullscreen from the keyboard"