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Well, an OLED will be pretty much dead after six years anyways. Also, you cat reset an old, slow TV, put it in "dumb" mode, then add something like a Vero V or
by imp0cat 3y ago
Well, an OLED will be pretty much dead after six years anyways.
Also, you cat reset an old, slow TV, put it in "dumb" mode, then add something like a Vero V or another box.
- jeffbee 3y ago> Well, an OLED will be pretty much dead after six years anyways. How much TV are you people watching such that this statement becomes even remotely accurate? My 2017 LG OLED display says it has 6400 power-on hours and it looks as good as new.
- sb057 3y agoThe average American watches five hours of television every day, or just shy of 11,000 hours over six years. https://www.marketingcharts.com/television/tv-audiences-and-consumption-229018 https://www.marketingcharts.com/television/tv-audiences-and-...
- sgt 3y agoLots of people leave their television sets on for almost the entire day, even when not watching. Never understood that.
- eikenberry 3y agoGives a feeling of having other people around and staves off loneliness.
- magicalhippo 3y agoSO does that. She'll put the show on pause, go do shopping, come back and resume. All while leaving the TV on. I've tried to get her to change oh so many times, all in vain... No rational explanation either. Just... that's how she rolls I guess.
- mvanbaak 3y agoenable energy savings and turn off the tv after 2 hours. problem solved! Most tv's show a popup when they are about to shut off because of power savings, and with a button on the remote you can reset the timer.
- c0pium 3y agoThis is extremely passive aggressive, tell me you’re single without telling me you’re single. People’s preferences being different than yours is not a technical problem to be worked around.
- mvanbaak 3y agoI’m not the one complaining here. My wife turns off everything before she leaves the place. Even if its just a quick walk with the dog :)
- arp242 3y agoI had a girlfriend who would flush the toilet before using it. She said "it's cleaner this way". I tried to get her to stop, but it was a futile effort.
- imp0cat 3y agoBefore and after, I'd hope. :)
- cschneid 3y agoThat doesn't kill LG OLEDs thought, that results in a nearly black screensaver (just a small slow "firework" effect). Wastes a touch more energy than turning the tv into sleep mode (since nothing actually turns off anymore), but hard to believe that would shorten life much.
- jeffbee 3y agoThat explains a few things. Still, the objective tests from RTINGS seem to suggest that it's the LCD sets that look all fucked up after a few years, while almost all the OLED ones look perfect. And they OLED sets aren't showing a downtrend in overall brightness over time. https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/longevity-results-after-10-months https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/longevity-results-after-10-m...
- electrondood 3y agoThat's insane to me. I can't stand watching TV. I feel my life being sucked away.
- Flameancer 3y agoThat actuality sounds pretty standard. That would be from 5pm-10pm. Evening news, game shows, then like two 1 hour long shows and it’s already been five hours.
- Hikikomori 3y agoTry sitting down.
- eru 3y agoMany people leave the TV running in the background while they do other things, like eat dinner. For the lifespan of the screen, it doesn't matter if anyone actually directs their eyes at it.
- eropple 3y agoYeah, that's a wild claim to me too. My 2018 LG C8 has about 5800 hours on it and it is indistinguishable from new. (Though I've never run it at max brightness because it would be blinding.)
- sokoloff 3y agoConfusingly, the contrast control has a higher effect on image brightness (in the ordinary English language use) than the brightness control does.
- mattgreenrocks 3y ago> Well, an OLED will be pretty much dead after six years anyways. Why is that?
- imp0cat 3y agoThey get dimmer as they age and might also develop "burn-in".
- squeaky-clean 3y agoThis really isn't an issue these days if you research your screen. Rtings.com has a good series on their website and YouTube testing OLED burn-in, and there are many TVs where this is not an issue. Also check out Wulff Den on youtube and his videos testing the OLED Nintendo Switch. He does get some bad burn in after a year, but that's also because it's on a still image at max brightness and never turns off. I don't mean a year of standard usage. I mean 8,765 hours of it displaying the same image.
- jasonfarnon 3y agoScreensavers became necessary again?
- girvo 3y agoFor OLED computer monitors: yep!
- eru 3y agoThey were never necessary to begin with: automatically turning the screens off (or at least to 'black') is never worse.
- imp0cat 3y agoNot just that. OLED TVs nowadays have a screensaver that kicks in when it detects stationary image for more than a few minutes. They also shift the image around by a few pixels to prevent logos and tickers from permanently marking the screen. And when turned off, they also try to level the brightness of individual pixels by displaying different patterns - again to combat "burn-in".
- Night_Thastus 3y agoThis depends a LOT on both how, and how much the display in question is used. You can make an OLED visibly burn in within a couple months if you max the brightness, cover it in static content and then leave it running constantly. Or it can last a decade if used lightly, on lower brightness, with good burn-in compensation software, with few to no static images.
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- ptmcc 3y agoA decade is still a really short lifespan for a TV
- andersa 3y ago...it is? I buy a new TV every two to three years as notably better tech comes out.
- Night_Thastus 3y agoI definitely think notably better is fairly subjective here. I have a 4K OLED from 2018. Since then, I think the only notable improvement in the models from the same manufacturer is maybe enhanced-ARC? That is a neat feature, but not sufficient imo. Maybe a 120Hz refresh rate, but very little content even uses 60, let along 120 - at least in the cinema and TV space.
- andybak 3y agoWe probably have different definitions of "notably better"
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- jiggawatts 3y agoIs it though? 2004 is the first year I remember watching a HD widescreen TV show (Lost). There were a handful of test clips and the like earlier, but they were a rare thing. E.g.: there's a HD video taken of the aftermath of 9/11 because the operator was just learning to use this (at the time) brand new technology. That lasted about a decade, and then 4K become a thing around the 2013-2014 timeframe. I got a Sony 4K TV in late 2013 and a Dell 4K monitor in 2014. However, both of those were standard dynamic range, albeit with a fairly "wide" colour gamut. I got my first OLED HDR display in 2021, and an OLED HDR TV in 2022. In other words, every "generation" of television technologies has lasted about a decade before being superseded by something significantly newer and better. Display technology still has some ways to go. No current consumer panel reproduces 100% of the Rec.2020 colour gamut. Similarly, there are no consumer panels that can reproduce the full HDR10 or Dolby Vision brightness range of up to 10,000 nits. There are 8K displays that are close to that target spec, but they're either one-off experimental models or more expensive than a luxury car. A decade from now, around 2033 mark, I full expect something like VR technology to have replaced TVs for many people. Apple's new headset (available next year!) will set a new quality bar that no traditional TV can ever hope to match, such as an extremely wide field of view, stereo, and very bright HDR in combination. Sure, they're expensive now, but after a decade of further development? They'll be amazing and cheap.
- stevenwoo 3y agoAnecdotally, My cheap old TCL dumb LED tv light burned out after about six years which is about average from what I’m seeing online but maybe I can fix it. But I did use it as suggested with a mi box.