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https://web.archive.org/web/20230527030738/https://www.amazon.com/Clothes-Detection-Wireless-Security-Recorder/dp/B0BJDK7VLM/ https://web.archive.org/web/202305

by navels 3y ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20230527030738/https://www.amazon.com/Clothes-Detection-Wireless-Security-Recorder/dp/B0BJDK7VLM/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230527030738/https://www.amazo...

gnfargbl 3y ago
That link doesn't mention anything about it being a "bathroom spy camera". It was sold as a nanny cam which is really a legitimate, if slightly distasteful, function. There is an image of it shown with towels on the hook, but it isn't stated or implied that it should be used to spy on people as they use the bathroom. I'm a big fan of holding tech companies to the same standards as other industries, but not a big fan of holding them to unreasonably high standards.
- 0xEFF 3y ago
  It literally says spy cam in the product title.
  - praptak 3y ago
    It's obviously only for the legitimate usage by the James Bond type of spy.
  - supertimor 3y ago
    As well as under the “Recommended uses for product”section it says, “ Pet, Spy”
- praptak 3y ago
  Nanny cam is obviously a crappy attempt at covering the seller's ass and no judge should believe it.
  - gnfargbl 3y ago
    Are nanny cams not a legitimate product? If they are a legitimate product, how do we tell the legitimate product from this (in your words) "crappy attempt at covering the seller's ass?" If they are a legitimate product and we can't reasonably tell the difference, why should Amazon have banned this product?
    - tremon 3y ago
      Nanny cams do not need to be disguised as not-a-camera.
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      - Brian_K_White 3y ago
        Of course they do. There are countless legitimate uses for a hidden camera. The only thing a visible camera is good for is to ensure that nothing bad happens in front of that camera. And even a towel bar or clothes hanger does not automatically mean bedroom or bathroom either. Closets and towel bars can and do exist anywhere, like kitchens, laundry rooms, front and rear entrances, mud rooms, workshops, offices, stock rooms, really anywhere. They are even legitimate IN bedrooms, if it's your own bedroom. It's wrong obviously to peeping-tom on a guest or tenant, but if I want to monitor my own bedroom when I'm not in it, I certainly can, and that means the product can't be automatically invalid to exist.

by navels 3y ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20230527030738/https://www.amazon.com/Clothes-Detection-Wireless-Security-Recorder/dp/B0BJDK7VLM/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230527030738/https://www.amazo...

gnfargbl 3y ago

That link doesn't mention anything about it being a "bathroom spy camera". It was sold as a nanny cam which is really a legitimate, if slightly distasteful, function. There is an image of it shown with towels on the hook, but it isn't stated or implied that it should be used to spy on people as they use the bathroom. I'm a big fan of holding tech companies to the same standards as other industries, but not a big fan of holding them to unreasonably high standards.

0xEFF 3y ago
It literally says spy cam in the product title.
- praptak 3y ago
  It's obviously only for the legitimate usage by the James Bond type of spy.
- supertimor 3y ago
  As well as under the “Recommended uses for product”section it says, “ Pet, Spy”
praptak 3y ago
Nanny cam is obviously a crappy attempt at covering the seller's ass and no judge should believe it.
- gnfargbl 3y ago
  Are nanny cams not a legitimate product? If they are a legitimate product, how do we tell the legitimate product from this (in your words) "crappy attempt at covering the seller's ass?" If they are a legitimate product and we can't reasonably tell the difference, why should Amazon have banned this product?
  - tremon 3y ago
    Nanny cams do not need to be disguised as not-a-camera.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - Brian_K_White 3y ago
      Of course they do. There are countless legitimate uses for a hidden camera. The only thing a visible camera is good for is to ensure that nothing bad happens in front of that camera. And even a towel bar or clothes hanger does not automatically mean bedroom or bathroom either. Closets and towel bars can and do exist anywhere, like kitchens, laundry rooms, front and rear entrances, mud rooms, workshops, offices, stock rooms, really anywhere. They are even legitimate IN bedrooms, if it's your own bedroom. It's wrong obviously to peeping-tom on a guest or tenant, but if I want to monitor my own bedroom when I'm not in it, I certainly can, and that means the product can't be automatically invalid to exist.