> while the actual creators get pennies. … > And then all of the actually interesting smaller companies and open source models are screwed. The argument here

> while the actual creators get pennies. … > And then all of the actually interesting smaller companies and open source models are screwed. The argument here is totally disingenuous. You can tldr it like this: Either a) you pay people for their content, which makes things prohibitively expensive for small companies. Or b) you can screw artists over (again) and give them literally nothing so you enable small companies to use and create AI models with legal protections. Now, those are legitimate considerations; you can argue that for society as a whole having lots of small companies is better than having a few big ones. …but you can’t help but look at that outcome and go: What about the artists? Do they get nothing? Is that ok? Is it not a little bit greedy and selfish to say you take everything, pay nothing and screw them over? Spotify and Apple Music aren’t great; they don’t pay well. …but it’s something right? How can any reasonable person sit there and say it would be better to have 20 different Spotify clones that paid no one anything other than their share holders? It’s greedy and selfish. People deserve to be paid for their work.