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Interesting way to look at it, a bet. A bet involving people's livelivehoods.
by kojeovo 3y ago
Interesting way to look at it, a bet. A bet involving people's livelivehoods.
- explaininjs 3y agoA bet involving paying people a salary for as long as is feasible? Cool!
- r3d0c 3y agoand destroying their future plans they might have set in motion that will be derailed because of management's incompetance, they don't have money that much money to float on specially in this economy where everything is overpriced, almost like they are humans with their own histories and possibly other people depending on them, did you really try and consider their perspective or was dehumanizing them your first instinct? but i doubt management will be fired will it? they'll end up with nice fat stacks of bonuses for making terrible business decisions keep defending the real incompetants though
- explaininjs 3y agoBelieve me, I have very very close experience with what it’s like to go through layoffs, and I feel for those who have just now realized that nothing in this world is guaranteed. But griping that management should have kept paying salaries when the money wasn’t there won’t get anyone anywhere. Take your severance, hone your skills, apply for jobs. If you can, maybe take some time to go on a trip. Life will go on.
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- morelisp 3y ago> when the money wasn’t there What about when the money is there? Spotify is profitable.
- explaininjs 3y agoBarely, and only after their previous layoffs this year.
- morelisp 3y ago... so the money is there.
- explaininjs 3y agoAnd it will be when they rehire later :)
- nkohari 3y agoCompanies don't stay profitable by investing in unprofitable markets, though. If they don't think this approach is going to work out long-term, they should stop spending money on it, even if that means reducing headcount.
- robertlagrant 3y ago> or was dehumanizing them your first instinct? This is a really poor approach to discourse. I imagine you don't really think that every job must last forever. Jobs come and go, and working them means we can live and make choices. It's not fun being laid off (I have been), but it's just life.
- robertlagrant 3y ago> A bet involving people's livelivehoods. Giving the employment market another livelihood option was the bet.
- scarface_74 3y agoPeople should know that know job is permanent and plan accordingly. Do you really expect to work at one company the rest of your career and get a gold watch and a pension ?
- fragmede 3y agoIt's worth noting that. Sweden, where Spotify is based, still does that whole pension thing, so culturally, relatively, actually yes.
- fisf 3y agoThat is entirely correct. But it also implies that employees need to price that uncertainty into their salary demands.
- scarface_74 3y agoExactly
- HDThoreaun 3y agoDo they not? American salaries sire much higher than european ones with more job security for example.
- KptMarchewa 3y agoYou're stating obvious things.
- checkyoursudo 3y agoBut why shouldn't we expect to be able to work for one company and earn a gold watch (at some anniversary date, I guess?) and a pension? It used to work that way. Why not now? It worked that way for my grandpa. It looked like it was going to work that way for my dad, until the corporate world did its huge pension rug-pulls. But it could still work that way. I have a pension now (Sweden). My wife has one (Germany). You could, too.
- google234123 3y ago
- nkohari 3y agoThis is literally how all commerce works, though. If someone opens a restaurant, for example, it's a bet that there's a market for the food they're preparing, and that their staff will be capable of being able to meet the demand. Sometimes you're right, and sometimes you're wrong.