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Well there's shutdowns and there's shutdowns; "hanging out with friends in the backyard, drinking beers and grilling" was pretty much illegal during some of the
by arp242 3y ago
Well there's shutdowns and there's shutdowns; "hanging out with friends in the backyard, drinking beers and grilling" was pretty much illegal during some of them.
- triceratops 3y agoReducing economic activity to deal with climate change wouldn't be the type of shutdown to make socializing illegal. Quite the opposite actually. Also I don't recall it ever being illegal to meet people outdoors with social distancing.
- konschubert 3y agoOkay, I’ll bite. How much was economic activity reduced during the shutdowns? By how much did did reduce emissions, was it 2 percent or 5 percent? By how much would we need to reduce economic activity to reduce emissions by 100%( Which is the amount of reduction needed for dealing with climate change)? What if we, instead of shutting down the economy, redirected it to build renewables and nuclear?
- Apocryphon 3y agoWhat if we did both
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- konschubert 3y agoIt would be less effective than just taxing co2. If you’re not sure about the price you can do an auction of a limited contingency of emission certificates.
- triceratops 3y agoFrom skimming this article's abstract[1] emissions went down 8-17% in April 2020. It doesn't say how much the GDP went down by. Lots of people lost jobs in April. But only 6 months later we had the tightest labor market in decades, so swings and roundabouts. It isn't a binary choice between stopping all economic activity and 100% renewables and nuclear. There is a range of choices and priorities. For instance, what would we really lose by eliminating private jets, super yachts, and cruise ships tomorrow? 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10281825/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10281825/
- kjkjadksj 3y agoThe only way to redirect an economy like you describe is with central planning which is absolutely not the American Way (tm).
- konschubert 3y agoNo, you can just impose a tax on CO2. You can even lower other taxes to compensate. It has a similar effect of redirecting resources, while actually working.
- kjkjadksj 3y agoTaxes are usually just passed to the consumer and you can be sure a co2 tax will increase the cost of just about everything sold, EVs included.