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> Almost everyone I know uses it daily. Counterpoint: almost no one I know uses it. It was fun at first but became boring fast, a bit like Netflix. If I want

> Almost everyone I know uses it daily. Counterpoint: almost no one I know uses it. It was fun at first but became boring fast, a bit like Netflix. If I want to listen to music I use youtube.

altdataseller 3y ago
Same, most people I know use Apple Music while others use YouTube Premium
- emmet 3y ago
  I am one of the 8 people in the UK that use Apple Music. Literally everyone uses Spotify outside of America.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    Paerhaps in your circle of friends. But spotify is not that popular. I wouldn't be surprised if their numbers of users are doctored. I know travel sites count the number of devices used by the same user as distinct users. One reached a number higher than the actual world population, people starting asking questions, and then they clarified it. It helps with marketing when you create the impression that "everyone uses it". For instance Threads has more users than OpenAI's chat bots but people think there are more users of the latter due to marketing. Spotify claims to have 226 million subscribers - as many as there are yahoo users. Yet I guarantee you that Yahoo is not popular. And neither is Spotify.
    - emmet 3y ago
      The penetration rate is pretty obvious when you look at social media at this time of year. Everyone has posts of their Spotify Wrapped. 226 million doesn't seem that high when it's the only music streaming service that most people in Europe are even aware of.
      - gumballindie 3y ago
        > that most people in Europe are even aware of Care to link to evidence? > Everyone has posts of their Spotify Wrapped. Did someone check with _everyone_? It feels like when people make such statments they refer to their own bubble. "It is known" is not a valid argument.
    - occz 3y ago
      226 million paying subscribers versus free Yahoo users is maybe the biggest apples-to-oranges I've heard in my life.
pavlov 3y ago
This is like the HN trope of “nobody uses Facebook / Instagram / [other social media product] anyway.” These services are global with hundreds of millions of users or more. There’s nothing useful to be extrapolated from the usage patterns of yourself and a handful of friends. (Personally I only listen to Amiga MODs and watch 8mm home movies of my mother while whistling the theme from “Psycho”.)
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  And here I am with my "definitely legit" collection of MP3s I keep on my phone and PC, played on Winamp 2.95.
josefresco 3y ago
Counter-Counterpoint: I got two teens in (American public) high school - they claim "everyone" uses Spotify and grumble about our YouTube Music/Premium subscription. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

> Almost everyone I know uses it daily. Counterpoint: almost no one I know uses it. It was fun at first but became boring fast, a bit like Netflix. If I want to listen to music I use youtube.

altdataseller 3y ago

Same, most people I know use Apple Music while others use YouTube Premium

emmet 3y ago
I am one of the 8 people in the UK that use Apple Music. Literally everyone uses Spotify outside of America.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  Paerhaps in your circle of friends. But spotify is not that popular. I wouldn't be surprised if their numbers of users are doctored. I know travel sites count the number of devices used by the same user as distinct users. One reached a number higher than the actual world population, people starting asking questions, and then they clarified it. It helps with marketing when you create the impression that "everyone uses it". For instance Threads has more users than OpenAI's chat bots but people think there are more users of the latter due to marketing. Spotify claims to have 226 million subscribers - as many as there are yahoo users. Yet I guarantee you that Yahoo is not popular. And neither is Spotify.
  - emmet 3y ago
    The penetration rate is pretty obvious when you look at social media at this time of year. Everyone has posts of their Spotify Wrapped. 226 million doesn't seem that high when it's the only music streaming service that most people in Europe are even aware of.
    - gumballindie 3y ago
      > that most people in Europe are even aware of Care to link to evidence? > Everyone has posts of their Spotify Wrapped. Did someone check with _everyone_? It feels like when people make such statments they refer to their own bubble. "It is known" is not a valid argument.
  - occz 3y ago
    226 million paying subscribers versus free Yahoo users is maybe the biggest apples-to-oranges I've heard in my life.

pavlov 3y ago

This is like the HN trope of “nobody uses Facebook / Instagram / [other social media product] anyway.” These services are global with hundreds of millions of users or more. There’s nothing useful to be extrapolated from the usage patterns of yourself and a handful of friends. (Personally I only listen to Amiga MODs and watch 8mm home movies of my mother while whistling the theme from “Psycho”.)

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
And here I am with my "definitely legit" collection of MP3s I keep on my phone and PC, played on Winamp 2.95.

josefresco 3y ago

Counter-Counterpoint: I got two teens in (American public) high school - they claim "everyone" uses Spotify and grumble about our YouTube Music/Premium subscription. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯