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Julia is the only programming language that makes me annoyed when I think of it, because it was so troublesome to package for Arch Linux and because of how litt
by xyproto 3y ago
Julia is the only programming language that makes me annoyed when I think of it, because it was so troublesome to package for Arch Linux and because of how little they care about increasing the safety in the language (like Rust or Ada).
- majoe 3y agoWhat made Julia so difficult to package? I'm genuinely curious. > ... because of how little they care about increasing the safety in the language (like Rust or Ada). I think it's a bit harsh to compare Julia to Rust on that front. Julia has completely different design goals. Compared to Rust's borrow checker and C++'s move semantics, Julia's immutability-by-default (+ clever compiler optimizations) gives a good trade off between performance, safety and ease of use. While Rust goes for safety + performance, Julia goes for performance + ease of use (respectively dynamicity). Nevertheless, I miss some features related to type driven development in Julia, which would improve safety: - A newtype idiom - Sum types - Explicit, type-checked interfaces : I actually would prefer something like C++20 concepts (a blacklist approach) to Rust's trait (or typeclasses, a whitelist approach), because it would be a better fit for Julia's design goals.
- adgjlsfhk1 3y agoThe main problem with packaging julia is that it requires a custom version of LLVM (since LLVM ships breaking versions every 2 years and doesn't do downstream testing for projects other than Clang). Lots of linux distros have repeatedly tried shipping Julia with random LLVM versions and as a result, shipped broken Julia versions to people.