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Discussed here also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38514537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38514537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38515123
by adamjc 3y ago
Discussed here also:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38514537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38514537
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38515123 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38515123
Not sure why it's getting pushed off the front page when, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38515123 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38515123 has 41 points and 2 hours old whereas a front-page article, e.g. https://www.historytoday.com/archive/feature/50-years-made-america https://www.historytoday.com/archive/feature/50-years-made-a... only has 57 points and is 14 hours old (as of this comment)
The inscrutability of how page ranking works in HN is increasingly a problem in my eyes. I understand it's an attempt at preventing gaming the system, but I'm not convinced it works.
- skilled 3y agoThe first submission got flagged because people can't follow simple rules and not make everything about Joe Rogan.
- constantly 3y agoI checked the hard copy of the rules dang sent me when I got recruited to post here and can’t find anything about Joe Rogan.
- codetrotter 3y agoY’all got printouts of the rules when you joined? :O
- Tao3300 3y agoMine was handwritten and bound in leather. The rest of you must be new.
- willvarfar 3y agoAnd mine on stone tablets.
- Digit-Al 3y agoMine was issued from a burning bush by the voice of dang himself, whereupon it inscribed itself permanently into my brain in letter of fire.
- willvarfar 3y agoI checked your profile date, you're definitely vellum.
- Sebb767 3y ago> The inscrutability of how page ranking works in HN is increasingly a problem in my eyes. I understand it's an attempt at preventing gaming the system, but I'm not convinced it works. HN downweights threads that receive more comments than upvotes. It's a quite useful heuristic to avoid flame wars, in my opinion.
- adamjc 3y agoDoes it take into account gross upvotes, or net? E.g. could a controversial thread (plenty of upvotes, plenty of downvotes) get pushed off the front page because it has a low upvote:comment ratio? I get that YC probably don't want to deal with controversy, but, well this is a community, of sorts...
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoI sometimes wish some stuff would stay up, but, in the aggregate, I'm pretty happy with the result. Whenever I see some article posted, that is likely to generate a storm of bickering (many platforms elicit this; not just politics), I'm usually happy to see it take a nosedive. I had something that I submitted, fairly recently, get plonked. It was actually fairly sensible and relevant, but one of the commenters posted something that was "sort of" a "dox," and I understood why it disappeared.
- Sebb767 3y ago> E.g. could a controversial thread (plenty of upvotes, plenty of downvotes) get pushed off the front page because it has a low upvote:comment ratio? You can't downvote submissions, just flag them. As for comments, I'm not sure how the sorting works there (but it seems like net upvotes, with comments younger than an hour being pushed to the top).
- mastazi 3y ago> gross upvotes, or net these two are the same since you can't downvote submissions.
- nvoeiah 3y ago[flagged]
- throw10920 3y agoI don't find this revelation particularly interesting, or this particular source to be very good, so the ranking algorithm is working exactly as intended for me. This is news, but it's not curiosity-sparking news, its boring tech news. Give me more physics and LL(V)M, please.
- jimsimmons 3y agoMost problematic is when articles critical of OpenAI or Altman get off, despite seeing a lot of activity. Very hard to prove
- praisewhitey 3y agoI use this unofficial alternative interface because it lets me scroll through everything that has hit the front page. https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/