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> Also, I have heard of "Carthage" from all those movies like Gladiator ... Somehow it escaped me until my 40's that Carthage was founded by people from what's
by jowea 3y ago
> Also, I have heard of "Carthage" from all those movies like Gladiator ... Somehow it escaped me until my 40's that Carthage was founded by people from what's now Syria, and the city was in what's now Tunisia
At least accordingly to myth Carthage was colonized from Tyre, which is today in Lebanon.
- KineticLensman 3y ago> At least accordingly to myth And a lot of archaeological evidence! > Carthage was colonized from Tyre, which is today in Lebanon. It was founded by Phoenicians [0], whose land today largely coincides with modern-day Lebanon, which as a self-governing state is a relatively modern construct (post WW1). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia
- boringg 3y agoPhoenicians didn't call themselves phoenicians either.
- nolok 3y agoAnd then there are the Sea Peoples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples
- boringg 3y agoI feel like most believable group for the sea peoples were migrants who had to leave their lands because the food supply had collapsed. Wasn't it the salinity had increased in deserts or something similar to that?
- stork19 3y agoActually, a self-governing Lebanon existed in one form or another since at least the 16th century: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate
- einpoklum 3y agoJust a reminder that the distinction between Lebanon and Syria is quite recent - due to the breakup of the Ottoman empire. There more well-known named region historically is A-Shaam in Arabic, Syria often in English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_(region) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_(region) It includes Lebanon, parts of northern Palestine, South-eastern Turkey, and (northern?) Jordan. And maybe a bit more.
- stork19 3y agoThere was an autonomous Lebanon of one form of another since at least the 16th century, though. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate
- einpoklum 3y ago+1, but readers should also note that: * It included large areas which are outside and to the North of present-day Lebanon, and * It was still part of "Ottoman Syria": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria , which was kind of a maximum version of what's described in my previous link