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I don't see this being stopped any time soon. The gain from the government's point of view is too much (you need to capture someone's fingerprints to be able to

I don't see this being stopped any time soon. The gain from the government's point of view is too much (you need to capture someone's fingerprints to be able to check them at cbp's desk on arrival) but facial recognition can be captured anytime and cross checked against a large database. The only way i see facial recognition being stopped if with some mass outcry of average joes (and not just the richard m stallman types) being against it.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> only way i see facial recognition being stopped if with some mass outcry of average joes Privacy has never been an average-Joe issue. Average Joe isn't invoking the full wrath of the state. That's reserved for minority elite. Those are also the people privacy protects most socially usefully. Dissidents, unpopular scientists and change agents: this is from whom privacy reforms come because this is who it usefully protects.
- defrost 3y ago
  Varies by country - there's a lot of pushback against facial recognition in Australia .. at "average joe" stores: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/25/bunnings-and-kmart-halt-use-of-facial-recognition-in-stores-as-australian-privacy-watchdog-investigates https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/25/bunnings-... It may yet return (probably will when the fuss dies down) but Bunnings (Hardware), K-Mart, Woolworths, Coles, Aldi, Target, Big W, Myer, David Jones, Dan Murphy’s, BWS, Vintage Cellars, Liquorland, Rebel and Officeworks in Australia have all pledged "no facials".
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    I should clarify: the average Joe rarely forms a cohesive block opposed to state surveillance. Quotidien privacy issues are more front and centre.
ignoramous 3y ago
A comprehensive biometric database has the potential to be both important and deterimental to civilians in the inevitable Minority Report esque future: https://medium.com/@BlackHC/why-autonomous-weapons-are-inevitable-eb5e0d82adde https://medium.com/@BlackHC/why-autonomous-weapons-are-inevi... / https://archive.is/OIowV https://archive.is/OIowV

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> only way i see facial recognition being stopped if with some mass outcry of average joes Privacy has never been an average-Joe issue. Average Joe isn't invoking the full wrath of the state. That's reserved for minority elite. Those are also the people privacy protects most socially usefully. Dissidents, unpopular scientists and change agents: this is from whom privacy reforms come because this is who it usefully protects.

defrost 3y ago
Varies by country - there's a lot of pushback against facial recognition in Australia .. at "average joe" stores: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/25/bunnings-and-kmart-halt-use-of-facial-recognition-in-stores-as-australian-privacy-watchdog-investigates https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/25/bunnings-... It may yet return (probably will when the fuss dies down) but Bunnings (Hardware), K-Mart, Woolworths, Coles, Aldi, Target, Big W, Myer, David Jones, Dan Murphy’s, BWS, Vintage Cellars, Liquorland, Rebel and Officeworks in Australia have all pledged "no facials".
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  I should clarify: the average Joe rarely forms a cohesive block opposed to state surveillance. Quotidien privacy issues are more front and centre.

ignoramous 3y ago

A comprehensive biometric database has the potential to be both important and deterimental to civilians in the inevitable Minority Report esque future: https://medium.com/@BlackHC/why-autonomous-weapons-are-inevitable-eb5e0d82adde https://medium.com/@BlackHC/why-autonomous-weapons-are-inevi... / https://archive.is/OIowV https://archive.is/OIowV