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Don't be too sure of that. Plenty of instances have preemptively blocked Meta and it's likely that if and when Threads goes AP, more will follow. Some of us sti

Don't be too sure of that. Plenty of instances have preemptively blocked Meta and it's likely that if and when Threads goes AP, more will follow. Some of us still remember Eternal September and would like to avoid a repeat.

DeIlliad 3y ago
Everyone believes they were around before Eternal September and not the ones that caused it.
threeseed 3y ago
People always talk a big game. But by then there should be well in excess of 200-300m people on Threads. Many of them will want to converse with Mastodon users and vice versa and I am sure there will be instances available that will be happy to allow that conversation to happen. Because ultimately it's all about users not instances.
- coldacid 3y ago
  And that's fine, but chances are that any instances which would federate with Threads would probably get defederated by many of the instances which refuse to federate with it. We've already seen this behaviour in fediblock drama, where merely being able to see content from "bad" instances is enough to get your own blocked by an entire union of censorious Mastodon admins.
  - sleepybrett 3y ago
    who cares? If I'm on instance A and my friend is on instance B and she is talking to someone on Threads (instance C) and instance A blocks instance C .. it just means I won't see posts from instance C. So maybe my friend on instance B gets into a conversation with someone on instance C. In my view I just don't see the C side of the convo. No harm, no foul. A lot of the fediblock stuff is not 'well they won't defederate from the BADPEOPLE so i'll defederate from them too!'. In fact I'm not sure I've seen an example of that actually happening. You often see grousing and calls for it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen. Most of the block lists i've seen are simply instances of 'free speech warriors' who refuse to moderate calls for violence from their userbase, instances that are straight up 'we are nazis' here, or instances that are extremely sketchy porn.
boyter 3y ago
Fediverse: We are open for federation and you to join! Meta: Ok here is what we are doing with instagram/threads. Fediverse: Not that kind of open!
- account42 3y ago
  Accurate except for the part where there is already not a single Fediverse because Meta aren't the first to offend the Mastodon hivemind.
  - coldacid 3y ago
    Yeah but even those of us on Fun Fedi don't want Meta around.

DeIlliad 3y ago

Everyone believes they were around before Eternal September and not the ones that caused it.

threeseed 3y ago

People always talk a big game. But by then there should be well in excess of 200-300m people on Threads. Many of them will want to converse with Mastodon users and vice versa and I am sure there will be instances available that will be happy to allow that conversation to happen. Because ultimately it's all about users not instances.

coldacid 3y ago
And that's fine, but chances are that any instances which would federate with Threads would probably get defederated by many of the instances which refuse to federate with it. We've already seen this behaviour in fediblock drama, where merely being able to see content from "bad" instances is enough to get your own blocked by an entire union of censorious Mastodon admins.
- sleepybrett 3y ago
  who cares? If I'm on instance A and my friend is on instance B and she is talking to someone on Threads (instance C) and instance A blocks instance C .. it just means I won't see posts from instance C. So maybe my friend on instance B gets into a conversation with someone on instance C. In my view I just don't see the C side of the convo. No harm, no foul. A lot of the fediblock stuff is not 'well they won't defederate from the BADPEOPLE so i'll defederate from them too!'. In fact I'm not sure I've seen an example of that actually happening. You often see grousing and calls for it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen. Most of the block lists i've seen are simply instances of 'free speech warriors' who refuse to moderate calls for violence from their userbase, instances that are straight up 'we are nazis' here, or instances that are extremely sketchy porn.

boyter 3y ago

Fediverse: We are open for federation and you to join! Meta: Ok here is what we are doing with instagram/threads. Fediverse: Not that kind of open!

account42 3y ago
Accurate except for the part where there is already not a single Fediverse because Meta aren't the first to offend the Mastodon hivemind.
- coldacid 3y ago
  Yeah but even those of us on Fun Fedi don't want Meta around.