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A few months ago I did a post[1] where I promoted a page I made for my dad Nick Dooley[2] which was basically to test whether a simple "online busking" model ha

by dools 15y ago

A few months ago I did a post[1] where I promoted a page I made for my dad Nick Dooley[2] which was basically to test whether a simple "online busking" model has legs. The results were that about 4000 people downloaded the 1st track, about half that the second and roughly 350 each for the last two (I didn't do enough analysis to know if those last 350 or so people were the same ones or not). Out of those, about 20 people gaves some "bucks" and 9 people subscribed to the mailing list. I would say your best bet is to allow people to pay artists on the site via a "virtual guitar case" and take a small percentage of each transaction. If you have 404,772 users and promote one per day and drive 4000 people to that page per day, and your average musician drives $40 worth of revenue per day, you know. You make some money. Then you just increase the traffic and away you go. [1] http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/page/Thanks_Louis_now_here_is_my_dad http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/page/Thanks_Louis_now_here... [2] http://www.nickdooley.com/ http://www.nickdooley.com/

pud 15y ago
Cool concept -- I remember your original post on HN. I definitely think a site where musicians could ask for donations would be cool and I'd put my music there. I'm apprehensive to do this on Fandalism though. If I promise money to my users I'd be setting them up for disappointment since the vast majority wouldn't make any. In other words I'd probably rather the message be "Use Fandalism because it's fun and cool!" rather than "Use Fandalism to make money!"
- chmike 15y ago
  A social network dedicated for musicians can't yield any blame on you. Musicians need visibility. You would provide it for free and take a small cut on the one who get traction and earn money from it. It sounds to me like a fair deal. This is a kickstarter like model specialized for musicians.
- nikcub 15y ago
  do it as an app or widget they can install on their profiles
- iuguy 15y ago
  How about you let musicians sell either through you directly (a la itunes or amazon) on their sites or post itunes links? You could take a cut for the former (less than itunes) and get them to release unencumbered music.
  - tripzilch 15y ago
    It would take a crazy amount of work to beat bandcamp.com in terms of quality and service. Start with making Fandalism's HTML less sluggish.
zerostar07 15y ago
This. Also, allow them to sell the rights for commercial reuse. Although I don't think it should sound like charity or donation. Musicians should be able to set a price for a 'virtual ticket' that will allow you to download their music via any means, without the guilt.

by dools 15y ago

pud 15y ago

Cool concept -- I remember your original post on HN. I definitely think a site where musicians could ask for donations would be cool and I'd put my music there. I'm apprehensive to do this on Fandalism though. If I promise money to my users I'd be setting them up for disappointment since the vast majority wouldn't make any. In other words I'd probably rather the message be "Use Fandalism because it's fun and cool!" rather than "Use Fandalism to make money!"

chmike 15y ago
A social network dedicated for musicians can't yield any blame on you. Musicians need visibility. You would provide it for free and take a small cut on the one who get traction and earn money from it. It sounds to me like a fair deal. This is a kickstarter like model specialized for musicians.
nikcub 15y ago
do it as an app or widget they can install on their profiles
iuguy 15y ago
How about you let musicians sell either through you directly (a la itunes or amazon) on their sites or post itunes links? You could take a cut for the former (less than itunes) and get them to release unencumbered music.
- tripzilch 15y ago
  It would take a crazy amount of work to beat bandcamp.com in terms of quality and service. Start with making Fandalism's HTML less sluggish.

zerostar07 15y ago

This. Also, allow them to sell the rights for commercial reuse. Although I don't think it should sound like charity or donation. Musicians should be able to set a price for a 'virtual ticket' that will allow you to download their music via any means, without the guilt.