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Thanks for sharing, the ending brought a big smile to my face. Excellent storytelling, thanks for bringing us along on your journey. My favorite line: "Before

by markwj 3y ago

Thanks for sharing, the ending brought a big smile to my face. Excellent storytelling, thanks for bringing us along on your journey. My favorite line: "Before it had bothered me that I was low on both Ambition and Chill (6.0). But now I was at 10 for both. I was going to humiliate my evil girlfriend. But I was chill about it because I knew it would happen."

stavros 3y ago
I loved that part, such wry humor.
gurchik 3y ago
Can you say more about why you liked the ending, to someone who doesn't get it? It doesn't seem like a happy ending to me. She's riding off into the sunset, happy that she became the better person and didn't humiliate her girlfriend. But she doesn't seem to realize that the actions she _did_ take throughout the story arguably made her the "evil girlfriend" the entire time, and there isn't any indication that has changed by the end of the story.
- spencerchubb 3y ago
  What did the author do that was evil? I don't see anything in the story that makes the author evil. She improved herself and after she graduated from placeholder status, she turns the tables. When she had sex with someone else, I don't really think it was cheating since their relationship was labeled "Temporary"
  - gurchik 3y ago
    It's not just the sex with someone else. The main character is lying to their girlfriend the entire time, avoiding the girlfriend to prepare in secret, trying to "get" her before she herself gets "got." But she didn't even know for sure the "got" was going to come. Yes, she saw the "temporary" label, but every relationship starts out temporary. Sometimes people date other people knowing ahead of time that it won't last forever. Sometimes people express that fact in writing (private diary, spreadsheet, whatever). That doesn't excuse this behavior. I'm curious, if cheating in this kind of relationship is fine, when do you think it becomes unacceptable?
    - lmm 3y ago
      > But she didn't even know for sure the "got" was going to come. Yes, she saw the "temporary" label, but every relationship starts out temporary. Sometimes people date other people knowing ahead of time that it won't last forever. Sometimes people express that fact in writing (private diary, spreadsheet, whatever). That doesn't excuse this behavior. I'm not completely convinced. I don't agree with "every relationship starts out temporary"; to me a relationship should be part of a good-faith effort towards a permanent relationship unless agreed otherwise. (And if you take the position that the girlfriend didn't agree to a relationship at all, then by the same token she can't complain about it being nonexclusive). If you know someone's maintaining a relationship with you under deeply false pretenses (explicitly or implicitly), then I don't think you owe them or your relationship any loyalty.
    - spencerchubb 3y ago
      I don't really view it as a faithful romantic relationship, so I don't view it as cheating. One party considered it temporary while holding up a facade that they viewed it as legitimate.
- acjohnson55 3y ago
  Not the person you're replying to, but yes, I think that's right. But that's what's clever about the story.

by markwj 3y ago

stavros 3y ago

I loved that part, such wry humor.

gurchik 3y ago

Can you say more about why you liked the ending, to someone who doesn't get it? It doesn't seem like a happy ending to me. She's riding off into the sunset, happy that she became the better person and didn't humiliate her girlfriend. But she doesn't seem to realize that the actions she _did_ take throughout the story arguably made her the "evil girlfriend" the entire time, and there isn't any indication that has changed by the end of the story.

spencerchubb 3y ago
What did the author do that was evil? I don't see anything in the story that makes the author evil. She improved herself and after she graduated from placeholder status, she turns the tables. When she had sex with someone else, I don't really think it was cheating since their relationship was labeled "Temporary"
- gurchik 3y ago
  It's not just the sex with someone else. The main character is lying to their girlfriend the entire time, avoiding the girlfriend to prepare in secret, trying to "get" her before she herself gets "got." But she didn't even know for sure the "got" was going to come. Yes, she saw the "temporary" label, but every relationship starts out temporary. Sometimes people date other people knowing ahead of time that it won't last forever. Sometimes people express that fact in writing (private diary, spreadsheet, whatever). That doesn't excuse this behavior. I'm curious, if cheating in this kind of relationship is fine, when do you think it becomes unacceptable?
  - lmm 3y ago
    > But she didn't even know for sure the "got" was going to come. Yes, she saw the "temporary" label, but every relationship starts out temporary. Sometimes people date other people knowing ahead of time that it won't last forever. Sometimes people express that fact in writing (private diary, spreadsheet, whatever). That doesn't excuse this behavior. I'm not completely convinced. I don't agree with "every relationship starts out temporary"; to me a relationship should be part of a good-faith effort towards a permanent relationship unless agreed otherwise. (And if you take the position that the girlfriend didn't agree to a relationship at all, then by the same token she can't complain about it being nonexclusive). If you know someone's maintaining a relationship with you under deeply false pretenses (explicitly or implicitly), then I don't think you owe them or your relationship any loyalty.
  - spencerchubb 3y ago
    I don't really view it as a faithful romantic relationship, so I don't view it as cheating. One party considered it temporary while holding up a facade that they viewed it as legitimate.
acjohnson55 3y ago
Not the person you're replying to, but yes, I think that's right. But that's what's clever about the story.