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100%. My son got sick at school last week and I ignored the call from the school nurse because I have been so thoroughly conditioned by daily scam calls to igno
by AgentOrange1234 3y ago
100%. My son got sick at school last week and I ignored the call from the school nurse because I have been so thoroughly conditioned by daily scam calls to ignore any unrecognized number. It’s insane that this is still a problem.
- hackernewds 3y agoget an android and use "screen my call"
- Terr_ 3y agoUseful for an individual tactic, not really a solution to the large scale problem.
- viraptor 3y agoThe solution (well, one at least) to the large scale problem is for everyone to call their representative as long as it takes to implement necessary penalty regulation. All the US based people complaining here can start doing it today.
- steelframe 3y agoThe exact same thing happened to me last week. My son got sick at school, enough so that they ended up calling the paramedics. But I had been spammed so much the week before with spoofed phone numbers from my area code that I had my phone on "Do Not Disturb" allowing only people in my contact list through. I thought it would be fine since the school's phone number is in my contact list. Unfortunately the school's systems were down and so they weren't able to call me from the school's regular phone system. They called from random personal cell phones, so that went straight to voicemail. It wasn't until someone was literally sent to my house to bang on my door that I got notification of my child's medical emergency. They were about to administer medication that would NOT have been okay to give him, and I was lucky to be able to contact them and tell them to hold off before they did it. Never mind reporting them to a phone provider. If something had happened to my son I swear to God I would have gone full Liam Neeson "what I do have are a very particular set of skills" on the jackass who's running that specific phone spam operation.
- idontwantthis 3y agoOne slightly better solution is to get a Voip number from a distant area code in a place you’ve never been and know no one. Only give that number to people you want to actually call you. Then you can safely ignore all calls from that area code.
- chrisBob 3y agoI feel very lucky to have a phone number from when I lived in northern NY for a few years. There are 4 people from that area code that I might ever want a phone call from, and they are all in my address book. Any other 315 number is safe to ignore.
- ghaff 3y agoI'm reasonably nearby the major city that has my cell phone's area code but I'm in a different area code and most people who are in the city who could even potentially call me are in my contact list. (For a long time I used to regularly get calls from areacode-exchange-random 4 digits which I knew to safely ignore/block.)
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- megablast 3y agoIf you have a kid and are ignoring calls, that is crazy.
- AgentOrange1234 3y agoWell he’s 12, in the care of competent adults at a public school less than a mile away. But sure, I guess I should have been perfect.
- organsnyder 3y agoI also have a 12yo (and three younger kids), and I have missed calls from school as well.
- steelframe 3y agoYou're right. How about we all try this? The next time anyone's in a meeting together talking about a production incident or quarterly planning or whatever, they're going to tell everyone else to STFU and wait while they take every random call they get on the off chance it's their kid's school trying to get through to them. Does that seem reasonable to you?
- Forbo 3y agoNo, because it isn't reasonable. What would be reasonable is for the individual receiving the call to excuse themself leaving the rest of the meeting to carry on. Isn't this already the standard?
- usea 3y agoWhen over 95% of the calls you receive are spam, it's not reasonable to excuse yourself from meetings whenever you get a phone call. I mean, unless you just don't want to be in meetings. Which is okay.
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- Brajeshwar 3y agoI have defaulted to No Phone/Voice Calls for over 5+ years. By default, everyone is blocked, and I maintain a whitelist (a group named "!DND") of numbers who can go through — school numbers, including quite a lot of teachers, the bus driver, and the bus assistant can get through. This is working so far.
- gosub100 3y agoI could see this failing because the nurse's phone number is different than the school. Any large institution usually has multiple lines.
- organsnyder 3y agoDepends on how their PBX is set up, but often those lines—even if they have separate incoming numbers—will all have the same outgoing number.
- lhamil64 3y agoWhich is ironically done by spoofing the number, which is why it's so easy for scammers to spoof numbers.
- organsnyder 3y agoI remember how shocked I was when I first learned how insecure caller-ID is. I was setting up a VOIP PBX for the small business I was taking over from my father after he passed away unexpectedly. I hadn't been able to get into his (telco-hosted) voicemail, until I happened to call the number from the new VOIP line. Since I had the caller-ID set to the same number, the voicemail system not only bypassed the greeting, but it automatically logged me in (it was set to bypass the PIN when calling from the same line). I tell people that caller-ID should be trusted as much as the return address on an envelope. Perhaps I can soon update my guidance now that STIR/SHAKEN is (apparently) near full rollout.
- case 3y agoDid the school at least leave a legit voicemail? (Curious)
- jader201 3y agoYeah, I don’t get people complaining about important missed calls. Yeah, I may miss these occasionally, but I see them almost immediately if they leave a voicemail — and they should, if it’s important — and then call them back, and apologize for the missed call, which they always empathize with. I lose at most a minute or two, which is totally acceptable.
- matsemann 3y agoI think this is cultural. I've never ever left a voice message, and never will. I've also never received one, the few I get are robocallers not understanding no one picked up. If you want me to pick up, send an sms explaining what it's about.
- organsnyder 3y agoA school nurse probably doesn't have SMS capabilities on their school phone, and might not be willing to share their private number (I certainly wouldn't in that position). I rarely leave voicemails, but I will when it's urgent.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y agoA school nurse is certainly expected to leave a message with a callback number. There are hundreds of millions of ways to leave a callback number that isn't 1 specific number you want. But "leave nothing" obviously isn't an acceptable solution, and leaving a personal cell number as a callback is a more acceptable one. tl;dr: leave message+number, how you do so is up to you
- organsnyder 3y agoAbsolutely. The person I was replying to said that voicemail was not a reasonable option. If the nurse needed to send an SMS their only option may be to use a personal device, and it isn't reasonable to expect educators and staff to provide personal contact information to parents. The proper procedure is for the nurse to leave a voicemail with their school-provided contact number (either the school office or a way to dial them directly that isn't their personal number).
- mock-possum 3y agoYour school should offer alternate forms of contact, including texting and email
- XCSme 3y agoI guess this is the problem: you have to answer before you know what it is about. With email, you can immediately at least read the title of the email, or even the contents, before deciding if you want to respond or not.