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I’m definitely a Tesla fan.. considering a cyber truck but one concern I have which I think is similar to what your saying is I’m worried because it’s been demo

by taf2 3y ago

I’m definitely a Tesla fan.. considering a cyber truck but one concern I have which I think is similar to what your saying is I’m worried because it’s been demonstrated as bullet proof what if someone I drive by decides to test it out ?

idiotsecant 3y ago
The idea that the cyber truck is 'bylletproof' is laughable. 3mm of stainless sheet does not start defying physics when you sprinkle Tesla marketing on it. Low energy pistol rounds designed for minimal penetration might be stopped but I wouldn't bet your life on it
- haliskerbas 3y ago
  Shhh they don’t have a marketing department, there is no marketing!!!! /s
- kiba 3y ago
  I have seen video of it. It's 'bulletproof' for what they shot at it, which includes handgun, shotgun, and a tommy gun. I wouldn't rely on it as an armored vehicle. If I want extra protection, then I would spend money on uparmoring it.
  - dun44 3y ago
    Perhaps you shouldn’t put so much trust in marketing videos. https://www.quora.com/How-thick-of-a-hardened-steel-plate-does-it-take-to-stop-a-9mm-round https://www.quora.com/How-thick-of-a-hardened-steel-plate-do...
  - ponector 3y ago
    Without tests with AR-15 it is simply half-true marketing. but Tesla is full of such statements, like full self driving or price including gas savings. Toyota should do same marketing tricks with new Prius.
  - nickthegreek 3y ago
    They shot the windows?
  - pclmulqdq 3y ago
    Depending on the ammunition type, those guns all stand out as having very low penetration. Starting with the handgun, the two most popular calibers are 9 mm and .45, and if you shoot hollow point rounds, they can even be stopped by a few inches of drywall (hollow points are designed to expand on contact), and lead bullets may also be stopped by the truck if they are shot at an angle, but I wouldn't be sure about high-penetration rounds like full metal jacket. The Tommy gun is also handgun-caliber (assuming they shelled outout a small fortune to rent a real one, .45). Shotguns have an even wider variety of available projectiles. A shotgun shooting buckshot has far lower kinetic energy behind each projectile than a handgun, and their velocity falls off very quickly with increased range. A slug (a solid chunk of metal) designed for armor penetration, on the other hand, will penetrate 3 mm of steel easily, with similar caveats about range.
    - pclmulqdq 3y ago
      Just replying to myself because I watched the video: the Tommy gun was loaded with hollow points, the pistol was a 9 mm Glock and shooting regular lead bullets and one of them penetrated, and the shotgun was 00 buckshot, and even the buckshot had a penetration. Their excuse for both penetrations was "two hit right in the same spot," but that is pretty doubtful. They also used a suppressed MP5 in the mix, which would have lower velocity (and thus less penetration) than the pistol, and shot the same ammunition as the pistol. All in all, a very unimpressive trial.
      - trogdor 3y ago
        Suppressors don’t have a significant effect on muzzle velocity [0]. That said, in my experience, most people who shoot suppressed intentionally shoot subsonic rounds, since they are inherently quieter. If anyone in Arizona gets a Cybertruck and is interested in more testing, I own a (legal) machine gun and I would be honored to test your vehicle’s bulletproofing. I’ll even supply the ammo. [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.05748.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.05748.pdf
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    > and a tommy gun Al Capone hates this one weird trick.
- mikeyouse 3y ago
  Especially since those weirdly conceived 'bulletproof' windows went out the window and it's just normal glass so much of the vehicle profile is entirely susceptible to small arms fire.
grecy 3y ago
> what if someone I drive by decides to test it out ? Where do you live that you actually worry about someone shooting your vehicle while you're out driving? Wherever it is, you need to leave if that is a valid concern.
- ponector 3y ago
  Sounds like a random US city for me. Are you suggesting to move to Europe?
mensetmanusman 3y ago
Tommy gun - nonproblemo AK47 - accelerate
DrScientist 3y ago
Indeed - a bit like how police riot shields seem to attract people to throw stones, I did wonder whether Elon's antics might encourage people to pelt any cybertruck they see with bricks, just to see.

by taf2 3y ago

idiotsecant 3y ago

The idea that the cyber truck is 'bylletproof' is laughable. 3mm of stainless sheet does not start defying physics when you sprinkle Tesla marketing on it. Low energy pistol rounds designed for minimal penetration might be stopped but I wouldn't bet your life on it

haliskerbas 3y ago
Shhh they don’t have a marketing department, there is no marketing!!!! /s
kiba 3y ago
I have seen video of it. It's 'bulletproof' for what they shot at it, which includes handgun, shotgun, and a tommy gun. I wouldn't rely on it as an armored vehicle. If I want extra protection, then I would spend money on uparmoring it.
- dun44 3y ago
  Perhaps you shouldn’t put so much trust in marketing videos. https://www.quora.com/How-thick-of-a-hardened-steel-plate-does-it-take-to-stop-a-9mm-round https://www.quora.com/How-thick-of-a-hardened-steel-plate-do...
- ponector 3y ago
  Without tests with AR-15 it is simply half-true marketing. but Tesla is full of such statements, like full self driving or price including gas savings. Toyota should do same marketing tricks with new Prius.
- nickthegreek 3y ago
  They shot the windows?
- pclmulqdq 3y ago
  Depending on the ammunition type, those guns all stand out as having very low penetration. Starting with the handgun, the two most popular calibers are 9 mm and .45, and if you shoot hollow point rounds, they can even be stopped by a few inches of drywall (hollow points are designed to expand on contact), and lead bullets may also be stopped by the truck if they are shot at an angle, but I wouldn't be sure about high-penetration rounds like full metal jacket. The Tommy gun is also handgun-caliber (assuming they shelled outout a small fortune to rent a real one, .45). Shotguns have an even wider variety of available projectiles. A shotgun shooting buckshot has far lower kinetic energy behind each projectile than a handgun, and their velocity falls off very quickly with increased range. A slug (a solid chunk of metal) designed for armor penetration, on the other hand, will penetrate 3 mm of steel easily, with similar caveats about range.
  - pclmulqdq 3y ago
    Just replying to myself because I watched the video: the Tommy gun was loaded with hollow points, the pistol was a 9 mm Glock and shooting regular lead bullets and one of them penetrated, and the shotgun was 00 buckshot, and even the buckshot had a penetration. Their excuse for both penetrations was "two hit right in the same spot," but that is pretty doubtful. They also used a suppressed MP5 in the mix, which would have lower velocity (and thus less penetration) than the pistol, and shot the same ammunition as the pistol. All in all, a very unimpressive trial.
    - trogdor 3y ago
      Suppressors don’t have a significant effect on muzzle velocity [0]. That said, in my experience, most people who shoot suppressed intentionally shoot subsonic rounds, since they are inherently quieter. If anyone in Arizona gets a Cybertruck and is interested in more testing, I own a (legal) machine gun and I would be honored to test your vehicle’s bulletproofing. I’ll even supply the ammo. [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.05748.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.05748.pdf
- rsynnott 3y ago
  > and a tommy gun Al Capone hates this one weird trick.
mikeyouse 3y ago
Especially since those weirdly conceived 'bulletproof' windows went out the window and it's just normal glass so much of the vehicle profile is entirely susceptible to small arms fire.

grecy 3y ago

> what if someone I drive by decides to test it out ? Where do you live that you actually worry about someone shooting your vehicle while you're out driving? Wherever it is, you need to leave if that is a valid concern.

ponector 3y ago
Sounds like a random US city for me. Are you suggesting to move to Europe?

mensetmanusman 3y ago

Tommy gun - nonproblemo AK47 - accelerate

DrScientist 3y ago

Indeed - a bit like how police riot shields seem to attract people to throw stones, I did wonder whether Elon's antics might encourage people to pelt any cybertruck they see with bricks, just to see.