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> It’s mostly a fairly simple scheduling problem, plus having one adult sleeping somewhere they can’t hear the baby during each “shift” (loud fans help). Would

by csdvrx 3y ago

> It’s mostly a fairly simple scheduling problem, plus having one adult sleeping somewhere they can’t hear the baby during each “shift” (loud fans help). Wouldn't it be easier to have a soundproofed room for either the parents or the baby? Your key assumption is "not badly space-constrained" is plausible, but no time/scheduling constraints for adults seems unlikely. > if you can wait a minute they may go back to sleep, because they weren’t hungry, they’d just woken up and briefly freaked out—if you keep pouncing every time as soon as they make a noise, it trains them to stay awake rather than going back to sleep, and you’ll have a bad time for, potentially, much longer Your observations would be in favor of soundproofing where delaying intervention would be a feature, not a bug.

wharvle 3y ago
What’s with the soundproofing thing? I don’t follow what you’re getting at. Yes you could solve the problem with soundproofing, but that’s really expensive. Some distance and a loud fan is something more people already have than soundproofed rooms. If you’d rather soundproof, sure, go nuts, I’m not providing an exhaustive list of solutions. > but no time/scheduling constraints for adults seems unlikely. For parents with 9-5 sorts of jobs, it works fine. You don’t even need “sleep-per-parent x2” amounts of contiguous time available, because there’ll be a gap of usually a hour or three between the last time the kid wakes up for first-parent and the first time they wake up for second-parent, and it’s not like you can’t get any sleep while “on duty”. We were managing 6ish uninterrupted hours per parent in the very worst weeks for each kid, and more than that for total sleep, with a sleep window (for us, the parents) of about 10 hours. Not sure what you mean. Yeah inconsistent shift work or something could mess it up, but that messes up everything.
- csdvrx 3y ago
  > Not sure what you mean I'm basically non functional at less than 7h of uninterrupted sleep per night. > We were managing 6ish uninterrupted hours per parent It may not be enough > What’s with the soundproofing thing? Soundproof the room where either the parents or the baby are would be more reliable to control the noise level by preventing it from reaching out instead of adding more. It could also be converted later into a music room
  - wharvle 3y ago
    If “just soundproof the room” is an option, I’m guessing a night nanny’s in the budget, too. What we did was just one of us would sleep in another room with the monitor, and the other in our normal bedroom. Fan and door closed was all the soundproofing we needed in the normal bedroom. But that’s why having little space might make it a lot tougher—ours relied on having three rooms, two of which with sleeping-places for adults. And Ok we probably weren’t averaging 7 hours uninterrupted until about 6-8 weeks, but total sleep was consistently over 7, and uninterrupted of 6ish is a lot better than what many parents report (the ones where both get up for every feeding… I’ll never understand those folks) [edit] my overall point is that with just a little thought applied to the problem, and possibly some resources but likely not that much if you already live in a house instead of a small apartment, you’re not guaranteed impossibly-short sounding amounts of sleep just because you have an infant.
    - csdvrx 3y ago
      > my overall point is that with just a little thought applied to the problem, and possibly some resources but likely not that much if you already live in a house instead of a small apartment, you’re not guaranteed impossibly-short sounding amounts of sleep just because you have an infant. Oh I absolutely agree, I just wanted to understand the problem better and see if there was something I had missed!

by csdvrx 3y ago

wharvle 3y ago

What’s with the soundproofing thing? I don’t follow what you’re getting at. Yes you could solve the problem with soundproofing, but that’s really expensive. Some distance and a loud fan is something more people already have than soundproofed rooms. If you’d rather soundproof, sure, go nuts, I’m not providing an exhaustive list of solutions. > but no time/scheduling constraints for adults seems unlikely. For parents with 9-5 sorts of jobs, it works fine. You don’t even need “sleep-per-parent x2” amounts of contiguous time available, because there’ll be a gap of usually a hour or three between the last time the kid wakes up for first-parent and the first time they wake up for second-parent, and it’s not like you can’t get any sleep while “on duty”. We were managing 6ish uninterrupted hours per parent in the very worst weeks for each kid, and more than that for total sleep, with a sleep window (for us, the parents) of about 10 hours. Not sure what you mean. Yeah inconsistent shift work or something could mess it up, but that messes up everything.

csdvrx 3y ago
> Not sure what you mean I'm basically non functional at less than 7h of uninterrupted sleep per night. > We were managing 6ish uninterrupted hours per parent It may not be enough > What’s with the soundproofing thing? Soundproof the room where either the parents or the baby are would be more reliable to control the noise level by preventing it from reaching out instead of adding more. It could also be converted later into a music room
- wharvle 3y ago
  If “just soundproof the room” is an option, I’m guessing a night nanny’s in the budget, too. What we did was just one of us would sleep in another room with the monitor, and the other in our normal bedroom. Fan and door closed was all the soundproofing we needed in the normal bedroom. But that’s why having little space might make it a lot tougher—ours relied on having three rooms, two of which with sleeping-places for adults. And Ok we probably weren’t averaging 7 hours uninterrupted until about 6-8 weeks, but total sleep was consistently over 7, and uninterrupted of 6ish is a lot better than what many parents report (the ones where both get up for every feeding… I’ll never understand those folks) [edit] my overall point is that with just a little thought applied to the problem, and possibly some resources but likely not that much if you already live in a house instead of a small apartment, you’re not guaranteed impossibly-short sounding amounts of sleep just because you have an infant.
  - csdvrx 3y ago
    > my overall point is that with just a little thought applied to the problem, and possibly some resources but likely not that much if you already live in a house instead of a small apartment, you’re not guaranteed impossibly-short sounding amounts of sleep just because you have an infant. Oh I absolutely agree, I just wanted to understand the problem better and see if there was something I had missed!