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" believe in a multipolar world" There is nothing to believe here, such a world certainly existed before, and will likely soon exist again, but don't rely on i

" believe in a multipolar world" There is nothing to believe here, such a world certainly existed before, and will likely soon exist again, but don't rely on it being peaceful. Competing superpowers, even if avoiding direct confrontation between themselves, will start a lot of proxy wars to push out their adversaries from country X or region Y. See also the entire Cold War 1.0. In multiple places, said war was actually very hot.

pastacacioepepe 3y ago
Well we have so many wars going on anyway that I start to think the US are a pretty bad hegemon after all, if the goal of hegemony is to prevent conflicts. So I'll gladly keep some conflict but without Uncle Sam's oppression, thanks.
- inglor_cz 3y ago
  It is interesting that two people can observe the same situation and come to such different conclusions. We have so many wars going on precisely because Uncle Sam is slowly losing its hegemonic status - which is not a boolean (true/false), but more of a continuum. If you look at the wars going on, many of those involve US allies vs. allies of smaller powers hostile to the US (Russia, Iran, Venezuela), which is precisely the sort of proxy wars that I was talking about. IDK where you live, if you're a Latinoamerican, you've had real US oppression - though, let me tell you from the former Eastern Bloc, don't expect Russian or Chinese influence to be any more benign than American one. It is a "choose your poison" situation. If you are a European, there is no US oppression here. The last European power that was forcibly suppressed by the US was Nazi Germany. But anyway you can be glad as you wish, because if the current trends continue, you will have a lot more conflicts than today. I am not really sure if "less US influence" will be an upside. Perhaps to you, in your situation, yes.

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" believe in a multipolar world" There is nothing to believe here, such a world certainly existed before, and will likely soon exist again, but don't rely on i

by inglor_cz 3y ago

pastacacioepepe 3y ago
Well we have so many wars going on anyway that I start to think the US are a pretty bad hegemon after all, if the goal of hegemony is to prevent conflicts. So I'll gladly keep some conflict but without Uncle Sam's oppression, thanks.
- inglor_cz 3y ago
  It is interesting that two people can observe the same situation and come to such different conclusions. We have so many wars going on precisely because Uncle Sam is slowly losing its hegemonic status - which is not a boolean (true/false), but more of a continuum. If you look at the wars going on, many of those involve US allies vs. allies of smaller powers hostile to the US (Russia, Iran, Venezuela), which is precisely the sort of proxy wars that I was talking about. IDK where you live, if you're a Latinoamerican, you've had real US oppression - though, let me tell you from the former Eastern Bloc, don't expect Russian or Chinese influence to be any more benign than American one. It is a "choose your poison" situation. If you are a European, there is no US oppression here. The last European power that was forcibly suppressed by the US was Nazi Germany. But anyway you can be glad as you wish, because if the current trends continue, you will have a lot more conflicts than today. I am not really sure if "less US influence" will be an upside. Perhaps to you, in your situation, yes.