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I think it should be a point of pride for the linux developer community that nvidia cards work as well as they do seeing as the company is actually hostile. Th

I think it should be a point of pride for the linux developer community that nvidia cards work as well as they do seeing as the company is actually hostile. The only solution for the end user is to vote with their wallets if running linux and/or wayland is important to them. Bringing it as an argument _against_ wayland, however, is missing the point entirely in my opinion.

vlovich123 3y ago
Well the bug that I’m experiencing is specific to Xwayland and seems to be a bug where the wayland developers are refusing to take Nvidia’s patches to fix the issue. So maybe it is wayland and not the drivers? Nvidia and Google seem to have a decent relationship working together to resolve issues for Linux Chrome Wayland.
- Vilian 3y ago
  what patches and why?, the other two major gpu company (intel and amd) don't need to send any patch to make their gpu work perfectly on wayland, why nvidia need it?, isn't their fault that their driver system is flawed?
  - vlovich123 3y ago
    Today Xwayland relies on implicitly synchronization. That’s apparently a legacy mechanism. Nvidia wants to add explicit synchronization support which it has as it sounds like the future whereas AMD and Intel aren’t ready for that. Xwayland devs claim the ecosystem isn’t ready and yet if a simple patch fixes the issue for Nvidia and the Xwayland folks agree eventually GPUs will use explicit synchronization, it seems like the Wayland folks are the ones dragging their feet. https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/2/contributions/78/attachments/90/143/explicit_sync.pdf https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/2/contributions/78/atta... https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests... https://wayland.app/protocols/linux-explicit-synchronization-unstable-v1 https://wayland.app/protocols/linux-explicit-synchronization...
  - paulmd 3y ago
    On what basis do you make the assertion that intel and AMD don’t contribute patches to wayland or compositors? That seems like an extraordinary claim.

vlovich123 3y ago

Well the bug that I’m experiencing is specific to Xwayland and seems to be a bug where the wayland developers are refusing to take Nvidia’s patches to fix the issue. So maybe it is wayland and not the drivers? Nvidia and Google seem to have a decent relationship working together to resolve issues for Linux Chrome Wayland.

Vilian 3y ago
what patches and why?, the other two major gpu company (intel and amd) don't need to send any patch to make their gpu work perfectly on wayland, why nvidia need it?, isn't their fault that their driver system is flawed?
- vlovich123 3y ago
  Today Xwayland relies on implicitly synchronization. That’s apparently a legacy mechanism. Nvidia wants to add explicit synchronization support which it has as it sounds like the future whereas AMD and Intel aren’t ready for that. Xwayland devs claim the ecosystem isn’t ready and yet if a simple patch fixes the issue for Nvidia and the Xwayland folks agree eventually GPUs will use explicit synchronization, it seems like the Wayland folks are the ones dragging their feet. https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/2/contributions/78/attachments/90/143/explicit_sync.pdf https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/2/contributions/78/atta... https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests... https://wayland.app/protocols/linux-explicit-synchronization-unstable-v1 https://wayland.app/protocols/linux-explicit-synchronization...
- paulmd 3y ago
  On what basis do you make the assertion that intel and AMD don’t contribute patches to wayland or compositors? That seems like an extraordinary claim.