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There's a lot of overly simplistic and just plain wrong thinking by WEstoids when it comes to the US. Most notably, Muslims and Arabs in particular are viewed a
by jmyeet 3y ago
There's a lot of overly simplistic and just plain wrong thinking by WEstoids when it comes to the US. Most notably, Muslims and Arabs in particular are viewed as a monolith. This is Islamophobia and racism, pure and simple. For example, there is the Sunni vs Shia split. There's also the Arab (Saudi Arabia) vs Persian (Iran) split. It's dangerous to make policy decisions on this basis.
Here are some things worth considering:
1. US support for Israel by itself creates negative sentiment and blowback in the Middle East. This is actually by design. The US seeks to destabilize the Middle East. It's one of America's "unsinkable aircraft carriers" [1] but it's more than that. Biden is on record as saying "If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one." [2];
2. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are also of key strategic importance to the US. Turkey is in NATO and is a key force against Syria, Iraq and Iran. The US placing nuclear missiles on Turkish territory also instigated the Cuban Missile Crisis; Saudi Arabia is a key counter to Iran's influence in the region;
3. US arms were used with the blessing of the US in a genocide in Yemen against these same Houthi rebels. The point here is that the Houthis have their own reasons to be mad against both Saudi Arabia and the US that have nothing to do with Iran;
4. Iran is not an irrational actor. They seek both to counter US influence in the region and increase their own influence. They're doing nothing that the US, Turkey and Saudi Arabia aren't guilty of doing. Iran is used a bogeyman by US propaganda to deflect away from atrocities committed by the US and its allies in the region. Iran wants normalization of relations but won't become a client state to do it. Nor should they have to. Let's not forget, the US played a huge role in the creation of the fundamentalist government of Iran by supporting the 1953 coup.
It seems like the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia have no concept of the idea of blowback. Committing and supporting genocide is always going to have huge negative consequences.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_aircraft_carrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_aircraft_carrier
[2]: https://theconversation.com/biden-says-the-u-s-would-have-to-invent-an-israel-if-it-didnt-exist-why-210172 https://theconversation.com/biden-says-the-u-s-would-have-to...
- bushbaba 3y ago> Committing and supporting genocide is always going to have huge negative consequences. Lets not down value the meaning of Genocide. There’s not a genocide ongoing in Gaza or Yemen. War sucks, and the civilian casualties are roughly in line with other conflicts. You do realize significantly more civilians have died per militant death in ww2, Vietnam, Korea, Mosul, afghan/iraq, etc? The Israel-Gaza conflict has a fairly low Civilian-casualty ratio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio