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Would be less of a ghost town if they allowed sign ups rather than via invitation only. Appreciate that's kinda the point of the site, but if it's a ghost town

by Xiol32 3y ago

Would be less of a ghost town if they allowed sign ups rather than via invitation only. Appreciate that's kinda the point of the site, but if it's a ghost town then it's clearly petered out.

bigdubs 3y ago
Quantity may have a quality all its own in warfare but for comments having the invite tree and accountability is pretty nice! I'd rather have (2) really insightful comments than 300 trying to promote themselves.
- tapirl 3y ago
  Invite doesn't always guarantee insightful comments.
- thrdbndndn 3y ago
  From my experience in invite-only forums, it can only assure some bottom line (mainly, fewer troll posts), but it doesn't help at all on the quality of comments. The only thing I saw that ever significantly improved the quality of comments is vote-based comment system when it firstly started to emerge (I'm thinking Reddit in its first few years). But unfortunately it nowadays has been gamed to death, probably even worse than old public forums.
- gtirloni 3y ago
  Except you don't see those 2 really insightful comments there.
- robocat 3y ago
  > 300 Exaggerating doesn't make reflect well on your argument. HN doesn't have a notable problem with self-promotion.
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wrs 3y ago
I read HN for the links, because of the quantity, and lobste.rs for the comments, because of the quality.
andy99 3y ago
They discuss under "invitation tree" how it's possible to get an invite if you want one. https://lobste.rs/about https://lobste.rs/about I don't have an account although a couple things I wrote got posted there, if I'd realized it at the time that apparently qualifies me. Overall I don't know if the quality is better than HN, even if the SNR is higher, there is just so much less total that the sum of good stuff is lower. It's almost completely free of politics, gossip, non-tech stuff though which is nice. For example I don't think any of the OpenAI drama was covered there. Otoh the links posted there are essentially a subset of what's posted on HN.
- some_furry 3y ago
  If you want an invite, ask your friends if anyone has an account.
  - Tamer 3y ago
    Will you be my friend?
    - r-w 3y ago
      [flagged]
- fifteen1506 3y ago
  A good samaritan on the other Blue site gave me one but I haven't had good comments to make since.
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some_furry 3y ago
It's not a ghost town, it's just not as noisy as HN. It's quite active.
- xena 3y ago
  I mean, compared to Hacker News in comment velocity and overall homepage change rate yeah it's a lot slower. Microscopically slow in comparison. Some people that are used to the fast-paced change of feeds like you have on bigger social media websites get used to the rapid pace of how things change. It can feel really weird when things _don't_ change that fast (such as how people bounce off of Mastodon because they don't know how to curate their feed anymore). I kinda like it, but I've been trying to break the addiction cycles of things like Twitter, so for each their own.
  - jbd0 3y ago
    I think I would prefer a slower comment velocity. By the time I get around to replying on HN, everybody has moved on. But I really like how articles aren't limited to technology on HN.
insanitybit 3y ago
I post on there most days. It's not really a ghost town, and there's a lot less noise than HN with only a bit less signal.
agent281 3y ago
It's definitely not a ghost town. It's just not a treadmill. It's hard to have a conversation on hacker news because (1) articles cycle through quickly and (2) you don't get reply notifications. Lobsters is a bit more human scale IMO.
- TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago
  To get automated email notifications of replies to your comments see http://www.hnreplies.com/ http://www.hnreplies.com/
  - lproven 3y ago
    It's made the site a lot more useful for me, but I discovered too late that it does not track submissions, including AskHN, only comments.
- rollcat 3y ago
  I actually do like it that HN doesn't have reply notifications. I don't feel compelled to read/reply to every message, there's zero sense of urgency, and this is perfect for something you do in your free/idle time. More importantly, every now and then something you write blows up and gets a disproportionate amount of attention from others. On websites with notifications, or on mailing lists, this gets distracting and disturbing. On HN, I'm happy to find out I've had my 5 minutes of fame the next day.
gaws 3y ago
> rather than via invitation only. This is a good thing.
kaba0 3y ago
If you request an invitation here, I’m sure someone will happily invite you. I wouldn’t recommend the recommended IRC route, I’ve tried doing that multiple times and it was never fruitful, it’s kinda dead. With that said: I do find Tildes’s approach much better (though probably quite hard on the admin), where you can just message the admin with a short “motivational letter” and get a registration link.

by Xiol32 3y ago

Would be less of a ghost town if they allowed sign ups rather than via invitation only. Appreciate that's kinda the point of the site, but if it's a ghost town then it's clearly petered out.

bigdubs 3y ago

Quantity may have a quality all its own in warfare but for comments having the invite tree and accountability is pretty nice! I'd rather have (2) really insightful comments than 300 trying to promote themselves.

tapirl 3y ago
Invite doesn't always guarantee insightful comments.
thrdbndndn 3y ago
From my experience in invite-only forums, it can only assure some bottom line (mainly, fewer troll posts), but it doesn't help at all on the quality of comments. The only thing I saw that ever significantly improved the quality of comments is vote-based comment system when it firstly started to emerge (I'm thinking Reddit in its first few years). But unfortunately it nowadays has been gamed to death, probably even worse than old public forums.
gtirloni 3y ago
Except you don't see those 2 really insightful comments there.
robocat 3y ago
> 300 Exaggerating doesn't make reflect well on your argument. HN doesn't have a notable problem with self-promotion.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

wrs 3y ago

I read HN for the links, because of the quantity, and lobste.rs for the comments, because of the quality.

andy99 3y ago

They discuss under "invitation tree" how it's possible to get an invite if you want one. https://lobste.rs/about https://lobste.rs/about I don't have an account although a couple things I wrote got posted there, if I'd realized it at the time that apparently qualifies me. Overall I don't know if the quality is better than HN, even if the SNR is higher, there is just so much less total that the sum of good stuff is lower. It's almost completely free of politics, gossip, non-tech stuff though which is nice. For example I don't think any of the OpenAI drama was covered there. Otoh the links posted there are essentially a subset of what's posted on HN.

some_furry 3y ago
If you want an invite, ask your friends if anyone has an account.
- Tamer 3y ago
  Will you be my friend?
  - r-w 3y ago
    [flagged]
fifteen1506 3y ago
A good samaritan on the other Blue site gave me one but I haven't had good comments to make since.

deleted 3y ago

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some_furry 3y ago

It's not a ghost town, it's just not as noisy as HN. It's quite active.

xena 3y ago
I mean, compared to Hacker News in comment velocity and overall homepage change rate yeah it's a lot slower. Microscopically slow in comparison. Some people that are used to the fast-paced change of feeds like you have on bigger social media websites get used to the rapid pace of how things change. It can feel really weird when things _don't_ change that fast (such as how people bounce off of Mastodon because they don't know how to curate their feed anymore). I kinda like it, but I've been trying to break the addiction cycles of things like Twitter, so for each their own.
- jbd0 3y ago
  I think I would prefer a slower comment velocity. By the time I get around to replying on HN, everybody has moved on. But I really like how articles aren't limited to technology on HN.

insanitybit 3y ago

I post on there most days. It's not really a ghost town, and there's a lot less noise than HN with only a bit less signal.

agent281 3y ago

It's definitely not a ghost town. It's just not a treadmill. It's hard to have a conversation on hacker news because (1) articles cycle through quickly and (2) you don't get reply notifications. Lobsters is a bit more human scale IMO.

TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago
To get automated email notifications of replies to your comments see http://www.hnreplies.com/ http://www.hnreplies.com/
- lproven 3y ago
  It's made the site a lot more useful for me, but I discovered too late that it does not track submissions, including AskHN, only comments.
rollcat 3y ago
I actually do like it that HN doesn't have reply notifications. I don't feel compelled to read/reply to every message, there's zero sense of urgency, and this is perfect for something you do in your free/idle time. More importantly, every now and then something you write blows up and gets a disproportionate amount of attention from others. On websites with notifications, or on mailing lists, this gets distracting and disturbing. On HN, I'm happy to find out I've had my 5 minutes of fame the next day.

gaws 3y ago

> rather than via invitation only. This is a good thing.

kaba0 3y ago

If you request an invitation here, I’m sure someone will happily invite you. I wouldn’t recommend the recommended IRC route, I’ve tried doing that multiple times and it was never fruitful, it’s kinda dead. With that said: I do find Tildes’s approach much better (though probably quite hard on the admin), where you can just message the admin with a short “motivational letter” and get a registration link.