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> TeamCity Professional is free – even for commercial use – and has no limitations on features, number of users, or build time. Yeah, no. There's obviously gon

by runiq 3y ago

> TeamCity Professional is free – even for commercial use – and has no limitations on features, number of users, or build time. Yeah, no. There's obviously gonna be a catch in the future.

chrisandchris 3y ago
Maybe, yes. But it's exactly the same license / pricing since i first used it and that's somewhat around 5-7 years. Quite some time so far. I would recommend TeamCity to everyone, it's awesome.
capableweb 3y ago
Just as a note: TeamCity originally launched around 2005 sometime, so it's coming up to be 20 years old soon. I think TeamCity Professional, when self-hosting, has been free since always.
AaronM 3y ago
The catch is your limited to a small number of parallel builds (3). Our CI pipeline would take hours to run with that limitation
solardev 3y ago
To be fair, I've never seen a company turn around a licensing fiasco as well as Jetbrains did. Initial announcement, 2015: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbrains-toolbox/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbr... Community anger a couple days later: https://bytecrafter.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-jetbrains-lost-years-of-customer.html https://bytecrafter.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-jetbrains-lost-... Significant changes after hearing the feedback, a couple weeks later: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-the-jetbrains-toolbox-announcement/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-t... I'd trust Jetbrains -- as a company with a few decades of experience serving devs and only devs -- much more than your typical get-rich-quick cloud SaaS startup that's just looking for a quick exit. Yes, they need income too, but they're one of those few tech companies not aiming for hypergrowth, just a sustained user base. Even though VScode gets all the love these days, and Atlassian and Github and CircleCI etc. get all the enterprise use, they've made some really cool products of their own too (Space, TeamCity). And their IDEs continue to be excellent. It's not like TeamCity even has a secret catch... their cloud version DOES have a monthly cost already. It's only the self-hosted version that's free.
- gjvc 3y ago
  To be fair, I've never seen a company turn around a licensing fiasco as well as Jetbrains did. Absolutely, though it was quite dramatic.

by runiq 3y ago

> TeamCity Professional is free – even for commercial use – and has no limitations on features, number of users, or build time. Yeah, no. There's obviously gonna be a catch in the future.

chrisandchris 3y ago

Maybe, yes. But it's exactly the same license / pricing since i first used it and that's somewhat around 5-7 years. Quite some time so far. I would recommend TeamCity to everyone, it's awesome.

capableweb 3y ago

Just as a note: TeamCity originally launched around 2005 sometime, so it's coming up to be 20 years old soon. I think TeamCity Professional, when self-hosting, has been free since always.

AaronM 3y ago

The catch is your limited to a small number of parallel builds (3). Our CI pipeline would take hours to run with that limitation

solardev 3y ago

To be fair, I've never seen a company turn around a licensing fiasco as well as Jetbrains did. Initial announcement, 2015: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbrains-toolbox/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbr... Community anger a couple days later: https://bytecrafter.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-jetbrains-lost-years-of-customer.html https://bytecrafter.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-jetbrains-lost-... Significant changes after hearing the feedback, a couple weeks later: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-the-jetbrains-toolbox-announcement/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-t... I'd trust Jetbrains -- as a company with a few decades of experience serving devs and only devs -- much more than your typical get-rich-quick cloud SaaS startup that's just looking for a quick exit. Yes, they need income too, but they're one of those few tech companies not aiming for hypergrowth, just a sustained user base. Even though VScode gets all the love these days, and Atlassian and Github and CircleCI etc. get all the enterprise use, they've made some really cool products of their own too (Space, TeamCity). And their IDEs continue to be excellent. It's not like TeamCity even has a secret catch... their cloud version DOES have a monthly cost already. It's only the self-hosted version that's free.

gjvc 3y ago
To be fair, I've never seen a company turn around a licensing fiasco as well as Jetbrains did. Absolutely, though it was quite dramatic.