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by xkekjrktllss 3y ago

aloisdg 3y ago
or enshittificated
- DarkNova6 3y ago
  Jetbrains is among the very few companies I’ll trust for the time being
  - ldjkfkdsjnv 3y ago
    Jetbrains products are outstanding
  - rqtwteye 3y ago
    Same here. Although I am super nervous that they will either cash out by going public or selling to some investor. That will be the end of it.
    - juunpp 3y ago
      They aren't a silly con valley startup and they've been around for 20+ years. https://www.jetbrains.com/company/ https://www.jetbrains.com/company/
    - chrisandchris 3y ago
      Maybe they will at one point, but JetBrains so far did never take VC capital (and if I remember correctly said "no" more than once) [1]. That doesn't tell about the future, but they probably had many options to cash out and never did. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-startup-founders-turn-billionaires-without-vc-help https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-sta...
    - devmor 3y ago
      Always praying that they never will. I’ve been using their products since my first “real” developer job over 12 years ago and I never want to switch.
  - juunpp 3y ago
    "For the time being" is an understatement. The company has been around for 20+ years, and while I haven't used TeamCity, if it is anything like their other products, you can be certain it is built with a high level of attention to detail and that that won't change anytime soon. It is one of the few companies left I license stuff from.
    - xkekjrktllss 3y ago
      It is a capitalist enterprise, which means control by its very owners is contingent on making enough profit to pay the bills, in the very best of cases. This is not my opinion.
      - irrational 3y ago
        Yeah, but this is JetBrains. They are one of the few companies whose products are so much better than anyone else’s that I’d pay for them, even as an independent developer. They’ve been around for decades and are still more than popular enough that making money shouldn’t be their issue. My company of 80,000+ employees has a JetBrains license for every developer.
        xkekjrktllss 3y ago
        ...for now.
      - DarkNova6 3y ago
        It's not a publicly traded company and not obligated to increase value for shareholders. Also, they are located in Czech Republic which has a very different business mentality, pursuing product quality over short term profits.

free until it's not, of course

aloisdg 3y ago

or enshittificated

DarkNova6 3y ago
Jetbrains is among the very few companies I’ll trust for the time being
- ldjkfkdsjnv 3y ago
  Jetbrains products are outstanding
- rqtwteye 3y ago
  Same here. Although I am super nervous that they will either cash out by going public or selling to some investor. That will be the end of it.
  - juunpp 3y ago
    They aren't a silly con valley startup and they've been around for 20+ years. https://www.jetbrains.com/company/ https://www.jetbrains.com/company/
  - chrisandchris 3y ago
    Maybe they will at one point, but JetBrains so far did never take VC capital (and if I remember correctly said "no" more than once) [1]. That doesn't tell about the future, but they probably had many options to cash out and never did. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-startup-founders-turn-billionaires-without-vc-help https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-sta...
  - devmor 3y ago
    Always praying that they never will. I’ve been using their products since my first “real” developer job over 12 years ago and I never want to switch.
- juunpp 3y ago
  "For the time being" is an understatement. The company has been around for 20+ years, and while I haven't used TeamCity, if it is anything like their other products, you can be certain it is built with a high level of attention to detail and that that won't change anytime soon. It is one of the few companies left I license stuff from.
  - xkekjrktllss 3y ago
    It is a capitalist enterprise, which means control by its very owners is contingent on making enough profit to pay the bills, in the very best of cases. This is not my opinion.
    - irrational 3y ago
      Yeah, but this is JetBrains. They are one of the few companies whose products are so much better than anyone else’s that I’d pay for them, even as an independent developer. They’ve been around for decades and are still more than popular enough that making money shouldn’t be their issue. My company of 80,000+ employees has a JetBrains license for every developer.
      - xkekjrktllss 3y ago
        ...for now.
    - DarkNova6 3y ago
      It's not a publicly traded company and not obligated to increase value for shareholders. Also, they are located in Czech Republic which has a very different business mentality, pursuing product quality over short term profits.