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Avoid Jenkins, and if you can, try https://www.jetbrains.com/teamcity https://www.jetbrains.com/teamcity "TeamCity Professional is free – even for commercial u
by gjvc 3y ago
Avoid Jenkins, and if you can, try https://www.jetbrains.com/teamcity https://www.jetbrains.com/teamcity
"TeamCity Professional is free – even for commercial use – and has no limitations on features, number of users, or build time. It allows you to configure up to 100 builds and run up to 3 builds in parallel, which is more than enough for most projects"
- xkekjrktllss 3y agofree until it's not, of course
- aloisdg 3y agoor enshittificated
- DarkNova6 3y agoJetbrains is among the very few companies I’ll trust for the time being
- ldjkfkdsjnv 3y agoJetbrains products are outstanding
- rqtwteye 3y agoSame here. Although I am super nervous that they will either cash out by going public or selling to some investor. That will be the end of it.
- juunpp 3y agoThey aren't a silly con valley startup and they've been around for 20+ years. https://www.jetbrains.com/company/ https://www.jetbrains.com/company/
- chrisandchris 3y agoMaybe they will at one point, but JetBrains so far did never take VC capital (and if I remember correctly said "no" more than once) [1]. That doesn't tell about the future, but they probably had many options to cash out and never did. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-startup-founders-turn-billionaires-without-vc-help https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-sta...
- devmor 3y agoAlways praying that they never will. I’ve been using their products since my first “real” developer job over 12 years ago and I never want to switch.
- juunpp 3y ago"For the time being" is an understatement. The company has been around for 20+ years, and while I haven't used TeamCity, if it is anything like their other products, you can be certain it is built with a high level of attention to detail and that that won't change anytime soon. It is one of the few companies left I license stuff from.
- xkekjrktllss 3y agoIt is a capitalist enterprise, which means control by its very owners is contingent on making enough profit to pay the bills, in the very best of cases. This is not my opinion.
- irrational 3y agoYeah, but this is JetBrains. They are one of the few companies whose products are so much better than anyone else’s that I’d pay for them, even as an independent developer. They’ve been around for decades and are still more than popular enough that making money shouldn’t be their issue. My company of 80,000+ employees has a JetBrains license for every developer.
- xkekjrktllss 3y ago...for now.
- DarkNova6 3y agoIt's not a publicly traded company and not obligated to increase value for shareholders. Also, they are located in Czech Republic which has a very different business mentality, pursuing product quality over short term profits.
- runiq 3y ago> TeamCity Professional is free – even for commercial use – and has no limitations on features, number of users, or build time. Yeah, no. There's obviously gonna be a catch in the future.
- chrisandchris 3y agoMaybe, yes. But it's exactly the same license / pricing since i first used it and that's somewhat around 5-7 years. Quite some time so far. I would recommend TeamCity to everyone, it's awesome.
- capableweb 3y agoJust as a note: TeamCity originally launched around 2005 sometime, so it's coming up to be 20 years old soon. I think TeamCity Professional, when self-hosting, has been free since always.
- AaronM 3y agoThe catch is your limited to a small number of parallel builds (3). Our CI pipeline would take hours to run with that limitation
- solardev 3y agoTo be fair, I've never seen a company turn around a licensing fiasco as well as Jetbrains did. Initial announcement, 2015: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbrains-toolbox/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbr... Community anger a couple days later: https://bytecrafter.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-jetbrains-lost-years-of-customer.html https://bytecrafter.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-jetbrains-lost-... Significant changes after hearing the feedback, a couple weeks later: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-the-jetbrains-toolbox-announcement/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/18/final-update-on-t... I'd trust Jetbrains -- as a company with a few decades of experience serving devs and only devs -- much more than your typical get-rich-quick cloud SaaS startup that's just looking for a quick exit. Yes, they need income too, but they're one of those few tech companies not aiming for hypergrowth, just a sustained user base. Even though VScode gets all the love these days, and Atlassian and Github and CircleCI etc. get all the enterprise use, they've made some really cool products of their own too (Space, TeamCity). And their IDEs continue to be excellent. It's not like TeamCity even has a secret catch... their cloud version DOES have a monthly cost already. It's only the self-hosted version that's free.
- marginalia_nu 3y agoYeah, I use TeamCity for both my test and production setups. I've only had positive experiences with it, very nice seamless integration with Jetbrains' IDEs as well.
- callmeal 3y ago>configure up to 100 builds and run up to 3 builds in parallel Funnily enough, Jenkins does not have that limitation.
- gjvc 3y agoIt has plenty of others which more than make up for it though.
- gjvc 3y agoThe responses to this post are hilarious.
- lmm 3y agoTeamCity is even worse than Jenkins. Jenkins randomly breaks and you can eventually fix it, or kludge some kind of workaround. TeamCity randomly breaks and you call support and they can't fix it.
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