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Come on. A guy mentions Sam's sister in his post and it's immediately flagged and hidden xD this site sometimes, seriously, the techbro team picking and worship

Come on. A guy mentions Sam's sister in his post and it's immediately flagged and hidden xD this site sometimes, seriously, the techbro team picking and worshipping is something else haha

rvz 3y ago
Also, I don't think the employees would also "Listen and believe" those claims given the offer that Sam is giving to them on a golden plate. I mean, one can just say, I don't know and don't care about this and that is their personal problem to deal with while I receive millions of dollars in shares. The whole point is stay away and don't play the "MeToo" game.
infecto 3y ago
Regardless if you like or dislike Altman, it is just a constant distraction to bring up his sister. I think most/all have heard it 10x by now. It’s very old, there has never been more evidence and his sister is mentally unwell. It serves no purpose to a a thread about OpenAI buying chips from a company he is invested in. Does anyone get tired by the tech bros label always being thrown out when people disagree. Can we not all grow up and if we are to have disagreements, actually discuss it constructively?
- 93po 3y ago
  Do you feel this way when people mention Elon any time Tesla is discussed?
  - infecto 3y ago
    Yes. I don’t like Elon but I get tired of the way discussions devolve into tech bros are bad. Maybe life has always been like this but I find it harder and harder to have meaningful discourse. If you disagree with someone then all of a sudden you get put into a generalized bucket. Edit: I don’t like how Elon always handles himself in public and I don’t always agree with everything Altman does but we as humans are very different and that’s ok. The moment Tesla comes up all the Elon hate comes out of their holes. In this case if the article was about some kind of misconduct or worse towards another person ok great let’s talk about his sister.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  > and his sister is mentally unwell. Potentially as a result of or exacerbated by abuse, or tolerance thereof? Or made her an easier target? > it serves no purpose to a a thread about OpenAI buying chips from a company he is invested in. Certainly it does. Self-interest, conflict of interest etc., raises valid concerns about a person's sense of morality and ethics. Much like alleged assault or abuse of a vulnerable family member.
  - infecto 3y ago
    What a weird world we live in. Abuse of any type is not condonable but at the same time proof of some type is necessary. Provide proof and there can be discussion around it. I am concerned you feel the need stretch so far to attack someone. Edit: Don't even bother replying, this person is a Elon/Altman hater. The majority of comments are just negative spam against any kind of thread related to OpenAI or Tesla.
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      > Abuse of any type is not condonable but at the same time proof of some type is necessary You're right, in a criminal court. I don't know what the evidence is or isn't. Neither do you. I just posited a theory. The very vast majority of abuse has no "proof" and often boils down to he said, she said. > Don't even bother replying, this person is a Elon/Altman hater. The majority of comments are just negative spam against any kind of thread related to OpenAI or Tesla. Let's see, 9,114 comments on HN, 100 or so which relate to Musk/Tesla, and approximately 20 of which reference the OpenAI drama. Revisit the site guidelines: * Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. * Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
Cornbilly 3y ago
Sometimes it seems like “techbro” or “startup” culture is just a series of personality cults.
Der_Einzige 3y ago
Glad someone else calls this out! HNs user base really loves the smell of their own farts.

Come on. A guy mentions Sam's sister in his post and it's immediately flagged and hidden xD this site sometimes, seriously, the techbro team picking and worshipping is something else haha

rvz 3y ago

Also, I don't think the employees would also "Listen and believe" those claims given the offer that Sam is giving to them on a golden plate. I mean, one can just say, I don't know and don't care about this and that is their personal problem to deal with while I receive millions of dollars in shares. The whole point is stay away and don't play the "MeToo" game.

infecto 3y ago

Regardless if you like or dislike Altman, it is just a constant distraction to bring up his sister. I think most/all have heard it 10x by now. It’s very old, there has never been more evidence and his sister is mentally unwell. It serves no purpose to a a thread about OpenAI buying chips from a company he is invested in. Does anyone get tired by the tech bros label always being thrown out when people disagree. Can we not all grow up and if we are to have disagreements, actually discuss it constructively?

93po 3y ago
Do you feel this way when people mention Elon any time Tesla is discussed?
- infecto 3y ago
  Yes. I don’t like Elon but I get tired of the way discussions devolve into tech bros are bad. Maybe life has always been like this but I find it harder and harder to have meaningful discourse. If you disagree with someone then all of a sudden you get put into a generalized bucket. Edit: I don’t like how Elon always handles himself in public and I don’t always agree with everything Altman does but we as humans are very different and that’s ok. The moment Tesla comes up all the Elon hate comes out of their holes. In this case if the article was about some kind of misconduct or worse towards another person ok great let’s talk about his sister.
FireBeyond 3y ago
> and his sister is mentally unwell. Potentially as a result of or exacerbated by abuse, or tolerance thereof? Or made her an easier target? > it serves no purpose to a a thread about OpenAI buying chips from a company he is invested in. Certainly it does. Self-interest, conflict of interest etc., raises valid concerns about a person's sense of morality and ethics. Much like alleged assault or abuse of a vulnerable family member.
- infecto 3y ago
  What a weird world we live in. Abuse of any type is not condonable but at the same time proof of some type is necessary. Provide proof and there can be discussion around it. I am concerned you feel the need stretch so far to attack someone. Edit: Don't even bother replying, this person is a Elon/Altman hater. The majority of comments are just negative spam against any kind of thread related to OpenAI or Tesla.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    > Abuse of any type is not condonable but at the same time proof of some type is necessary You're right, in a criminal court. I don't know what the evidence is or isn't. Neither do you. I just posited a theory. The very vast majority of abuse has no "proof" and often boils down to he said, she said. > Don't even bother replying, this person is a Elon/Altman hater. The majority of comments are just negative spam against any kind of thread related to OpenAI or Tesla. Let's see, 9,114 comments on HN, 100 or so which relate to Musk/Tesla, and approximately 20 of which reference the OpenAI drama. Revisit the site guidelines: * Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. * Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Cornbilly 3y ago

Sometimes it seems like “techbro” or “startup” culture is just a series of personality cults.

Der_Einzige 3y ago

Glad someone else calls this out! HNs user base really loves the smell of their own farts.