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MDMA (if that is what you mean, as street 'Ecstasy' can contain any number of other ingredients) is by most metrics one of the safer recreational drugs out ther

MDMA (if that is what you mean, as street 'Ecstasy' can contain any number of other ingredients) is by most metrics one of the safer recreational drugs out there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210

paged90 14y ago
MDMA isn't -that- harmful. You're assuming when you buy Ecstasy you're being solid pure MDMA, which often is not the case.
- ckcheng 14y ago
  E.g. "Police link 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy" http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/canada/120128/police-link-25-ecstasy-death-stories-canada http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/can... "12th death linked to tainted ecstasy in Alberta, B.C." http://www.vancouversun.com/12th+death+linked+tainted+ecstasy+Alberta/6074489/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/12th+death+linked+tainted+ecstas... "8 Alberta deaths linked to ecstasy-like drug" http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2012/01/31/calgary-death-ecstasy-pmma-police-warning.html http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2012/01/31/calga...
  - pippy 14y ago
    It's not fair to call tainted ecstasy deaths a result of drug use. Despite the fact tainted ecstasy is technically not ecstasy, if the industry was regulated it wouldn't happen.
  - excuse-me 14y ago
    A larger number of Canadians also died from tainted pork from maple Leaf bacon This is especially surprising since God explicitly told you not to eat pork almost 3000years ago. Remember kids, pork and shellfish are evil - just so no.
  - nowarninglabel 14y ago
    "A cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans — Bayer Pharmaceutical's Baycol — was pulled off the market Wednesday because of muscle destruction linked to 31 U.S. deaths and at least nine more fatalities abroad" http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1788794.html http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1788794.html
Retric 14y ago
MDMA is not old enough to show it's long term effects the way smoking or drinking has. One study of 52 users that where hand selected out of 1500 that showed no cognitive impairment. http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147 http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147 Others studies both before and after have demonstrated issues. The problem is it's hard to find good data on individuals before they started heavy use, and sleep deprivation and dehydration are linked to long term cognitive impairment. However, if you look at the existing literature there is no large scale and long term study's demonstrating it's safety. And a lot of evidence that MDMA is dangerous.
- leot 14y ago
  You know what we're sure will ruin your future chances of holding down a job, will stunt your development, and might well lead to severe harm or even death? Going to prison. Putting people in prison for harming themselves is the height of absurdity.
- stickfigure 14y ago
  You keep repeating "MDMA is not old enough..." but MDMA has been around since 1912, and used recreationally since the 60s. While there are certainly risks (mostly due to sourcing issues), negative effects are certainly subtle enough that after 40+ years of fairly widespread use, we haven't seen major epidemiological issues. Furthermore, these risks must be balanced against the very tangible and easily observable psychological benefits. There's a reason psychotherapists used this drug.

paged90 14y ago

MDMA isn't -that- harmful. You're assuming when you buy Ecstasy you're being solid pure MDMA, which often is not the case.

ckcheng 14y ago
E.g. "Police link 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy" http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/canada/120128/police-link-25-ecstasy-death-stories-canada http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/can... "12th death linked to tainted ecstasy in Alberta, B.C." http://www.vancouversun.com/12th+death+linked+tainted+ecstasy+Alberta/6074489/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/12th+death+linked+tainted+ecstas... "8 Alberta deaths linked to ecstasy-like drug" http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2012/01/31/calgary-death-ecstasy-pmma-police-warning.html http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2012/01/31/calga...
- pippy 14y ago
  It's not fair to call tainted ecstasy deaths a result of drug use. Despite the fact tainted ecstasy is technically not ecstasy, if the industry was regulated it wouldn't happen.
- excuse-me 14y ago
  A larger number of Canadians also died from tainted pork from maple Leaf bacon This is especially surprising since God explicitly told you not to eat pork almost 3000years ago. Remember kids, pork and shellfish are evil - just so no.
- nowarninglabel 14y ago
  "A cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans — Bayer Pharmaceutical's Baycol — was pulled off the market Wednesday because of muscle destruction linked to 31 U.S. deaths and at least nine more fatalities abroad" http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1788794.html http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1788794.html

Retric 14y ago

MDMA is not old enough to show it's long term effects the way smoking or drinking has. One study of 52 users that where hand selected out of 1500 that showed no cognitive impairment. http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147 http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147 Others studies both before and after have demonstrated issues. The problem is it's hard to find good data on individuals before they started heavy use, and sleep deprivation and dehydration are linked to long term cognitive impairment. However, if you look at the existing literature there is no large scale and long term study's demonstrating it's safety. And a lot of evidence that MDMA is dangerous.

leot 14y ago
You know what we're sure will ruin your future chances of holding down a job, will stunt your development, and might well lead to severe harm or even death? Going to prison. Putting people in prison for harming themselves is the height of absurdity.
stickfigure 14y ago
You keep repeating "MDMA is not old enough..." but MDMA has been around since 1912, and used recreationally since the 60s. While there are certainly risks (mostly due to sourcing issues), negative effects are certainly subtle enough that after 40+ years of fairly widespread use, we haven't seen major epidemiological issues. Furthermore, these risks must be balanced against the very tangible and easily observable psychological benefits. There's a reason psychotherapists used this drug.