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So quit. There's worse things can happen to you than "poverty". Lose some money. you'll make it back one day. But sacrifice your soul, your ethics, your digni

So quit. There's worse things can happen to you than "poverty". Lose some money. you'll make it back one day. But sacrifice your soul, your ethics, your dignity and the best years of your life for for some shitty tech company - you'll never get that back.

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thfuran 3y ago
How much time have you spent living in poverty?
- _gmax0 3y ago
  Or the converse, how much time have you spent living in fear?
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  How much difference would that make to my argument?
  - Whoppertime 3y ago
    It's easy to say "just be in poverty you'll earn it back some day" when you don't have kids to feed or pay for the school tuition, Christmas presents or other associated expenses
    - loopdoend 3y ago
      Op is not talking about real poverty here, these are AI tech workers whose skills are in high demand.
    - nonrandomstring 3y ago
      Isn't it easy to say anything, and almost always harder to back it up with actions? Actions that require sacrifice and personal inconvenience for the benefit of others - specifically, your children who will benefit in the future. Ever refused your kid that "pester power" plastic toy, even though it meant screaming tantrums? It's even harder to be unpopular, and even worse having to see those you love suffer present hardship while unable to fully understand the sacrifices you make for their future security. What it comes down to is what kind of a person you are. Leaders in life don't habitually choose short-term popularity and safety. This tension (and I think widespread misunderstanding) underwrites so much at stake today; Will you leave your car and take public transport, even while your kid is whining at you that other parents all take the car, remaining resolute that you have their real long-term interests at heart? Will you fight in a war, knowing you may well die, so your country or way of life won't be wiped out? Not working at a shitty tech company - when you know it's very organising principle is to spy on, exploit and deceive you and your family - is frankly a bloody good investment for the future, even if it means eating cold baked beans from a can for a while. All parents and leaders know that life sometimes requires making sacrifices. Just sometimes they are aren't the obvious ones. I'm sure you are not the kind of person is happy only so long as it's others who are making the sacrifices for the security of your grandchildren?
      - rybosome 3y ago
        And what sorts of difficult sacrifices are you making for the good of others?
        nonrandomstring 3y ago
        Again, how would that effect my argument? Maybe I could be a callous crook who built an empire of misery on the bones of small suffering children, and then - repenting upon hearing the word of the Lord (or something), made these professions. Would it add or subtract from the truth value of what I said?
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Kiro 3y ago
Who are you responding to?

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thfuran 3y ago

How much time have you spent living in poverty?

_gmax0 3y ago
Or the converse, how much time have you spent living in fear?
nonrandomstring 3y ago
How much difference would that make to my argument?
- Whoppertime 3y ago
  It's easy to say "just be in poverty you'll earn it back some day" when you don't have kids to feed or pay for the school tuition, Christmas presents or other associated expenses
  - loopdoend 3y ago
    Op is not talking about real poverty here, these are AI tech workers whose skills are in high demand.
  - nonrandomstring 3y ago
    Isn't it easy to say anything, and almost always harder to back it up with actions? Actions that require sacrifice and personal inconvenience for the benefit of others - specifically, your children who will benefit in the future. Ever refused your kid that "pester power" plastic toy, even though it meant screaming tantrums? It's even harder to be unpopular, and even worse having to see those you love suffer present hardship while unable to fully understand the sacrifices you make for their future security. What it comes down to is what kind of a person you are. Leaders in life don't habitually choose short-term popularity and safety. This tension (and I think widespread misunderstanding) underwrites so much at stake today; Will you leave your car and take public transport, even while your kid is whining at you that other parents all take the car, remaining resolute that you have their real long-term interests at heart? Will you fight in a war, knowing you may well die, so your country or way of life won't be wiped out? Not working at a shitty tech company - when you know it's very organising principle is to spy on, exploit and deceive you and your family - is frankly a bloody good investment for the future, even if it means eating cold baked beans from a can for a while. All parents and leaders know that life sometimes requires making sacrifices. Just sometimes they are aren't the obvious ones. I'm sure you are not the kind of person is happy only so long as it's others who are making the sacrifices for the security of your grandchildren?
    - rybosome 3y ago
      And what sorts of difficult sacrifices are you making for the good of others?
      - nonrandomstring 3y ago
        Again, how would that effect my argument? Maybe I could be a callous crook who built an empire of misery on the bones of small suffering children, and then - repenting upon hearing the word of the Lord (or something), made these professions. Would it add or subtract from the truth value of what I said?
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Kiro 3y ago

Who are you responding to?