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I want to like UI products, they seem to be the choice for prosumer equipment, but the lack of 10Gb networking is disappointing. WiFi 6/6e is multi-Gig but most

I want to like UI products, they seem to be the choice for prosumer equipment, but the lack of 10Gb networking is disappointing. WiFi 6/6e is multi-Gig but most devices only have the capacity to route/switch at the line rate of the physical ports. This is probably asking for too much but I would a set-up that allows me to operate at home: - 10Gb router (packet switching to fully saturate the number of physical ports) - 10Gb switch - 6/6e AP - 10Gb firewall with IPS/IDS Even just wanting a 10Gb switch for the home is nearly impossible, I doubt I will find a 10Gb router/ngfw that runs at line rate. It seems strange that networking, outside of the data centre and WiFi, seems to be stuck in 2001.

oceanplexian 3y ago
The lack of 10G across the board in consumer devices is disappointing. Somewhere in the early 00s computers started to come standard with gigabit. I think you could order a PowerMac G4 with gigabit in 2000. To put that in perspective, at that time VCRs were still the most popular way to watch a movie.
geraldhh 3y ago
gbit speeds are usually good enough for the majority of applications. even your 6e ap will not archive more than a gbit in most real world scenarios (not testing). the tables turn slowly, but the mass market for 10gig is just not here yet besides all-10gig soho switches beeing available for some time now. major point: 10gig uses vastly more power than 1gig, making integration (esp. in laptops) challenging. other point: ids/dpi at 10gig line speed is challenging, requiring a powerful cpu on the router and flawless integration.
- vetinari 3y ago
  > even your 6e ap will not archive more than a gbit in most real world scenarios au contraire; even for wifi 5 aps like original Turris Omnia (3x3 MIMO, 80 MHz) or Ubiquiti nanoHD (4x4 MIMO, 80 MHz), the gigabit uplink was the bottleneck. > major point: 10gig uses vastly more power than 1gig, making integration (esp. in laptops) challenging. Only 10GBase-T. For a networking equipment, you would want SFP+ anyway. Laptops slowly are losing wired Ethernet entirely. Meanwhile, 2.5GBase-T is still good enough for laptops, and does not represent integration challenges.
  - geraldhh 3y ago
    > 2.5GBase-T is still good enough for laptops, and does not represent integration challenges. it's also good enough for most soho infrastructure needs

oceanplexian 3y ago

The lack of 10G across the board in consumer devices is disappointing. Somewhere in the early 00s computers started to come standard with gigabit. I think you could order a PowerMac G4 with gigabit in 2000. To put that in perspective, at that time VCRs were still the most popular way to watch a movie.

geraldhh 3y ago

gbit speeds are usually good enough for the majority of applications. even your 6e ap will not archive more than a gbit in most real world scenarios (not testing). the tables turn slowly, but the mass market for 10gig is just not here yet besides all-10gig soho switches beeing available for some time now. major point: 10gig uses vastly more power than 1gig, making integration (esp. in laptops) challenging. other point: ids/dpi at 10gig line speed is challenging, requiring a powerful cpu on the router and flawless integration.

vetinari 3y ago
> even your 6e ap will not archive more than a gbit in most real world scenarios au contraire; even for wifi 5 aps like original Turris Omnia (3x3 MIMO, 80 MHz) or Ubiquiti nanoHD (4x4 MIMO, 80 MHz), the gigabit uplink was the bottleneck. > major point: 10gig uses vastly more power than 1gig, making integration (esp. in laptops) challenging. Only 10GBase-T. For a networking equipment, you would want SFP+ anyway. Laptops slowly are losing wired Ethernet entirely. Meanwhile, 2.5GBase-T is still good enough for laptops, and does not represent integration challenges.
- geraldhh 3y ago
  > 2.5GBase-T is still good enough for laptops, and does not represent integration challenges. it's also good enough for most soho infrastructure needs