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Have noticed the gpt vibe as well. Lots of twitter people lately thinking theyre smart and letting gpt write tweet replies for them, and I started noticing even

Have noticed the gpt vibe as well. Lots of twitter people lately thinking theyre smart and letting gpt write tweet replies for them, and I started noticing even just a couple words in that some responses I see read like GPT text. I think this is a good thing honestly, people should develop a sense for ai text and images, the sooner the better, just like we learned recognizing online scams or shady links in general.

moritzwarhier 3y ago
I agree, but it seems reasonable to be concerned that the average rate of failure might be much higher than that of recognizing scams and shady links.
siddbudd 3y ago
> develop a sense for ai text and images You can develop a sense for GPT-4, or DALL·E 3 fine, how about GPT-6 or DALL·E 5? I used to shake my head when I was a teenager and the older generation complained how fast technology is developing, when all they meant was typewriters being replaced by x86 machines, B&W television by color, landline phones by mobile. Yet, now I start to understand what they must have felt like. I can about keep up for now, but how about in 5 or 10 years from now? I don't feel so confident.
- rikafurude21 3y ago
  Yeah these systems are only getting better, soon enough we wont be able to tell, but think of what that means: GPT being able to write text more complex/persuasive/interesting than the average person posting online might not be a bad thing. Even now ai text is "more intelligent" than a good chunk of things people post. If I had to choose, I'd rather read an LLMs interpretation of what someone might want to say than that person trying to formulate it themselves.
  - actionfromafar 3y ago
    “That” is the elusive part. What is it? Was there anything to begin with? Are you assaying some meaning which was in fact never there? When someone rambles on their own, you can often tell. Harder when they have an advocate.
codetrotter 3y ago
And for anyone wondering: > It's interesting to see GPT being utilized in various ways, including helping with tweet replies. Developing awareness about AI-generated content is indeed important, much like recognizing other online hazards. The more we understand its presence and capabilities, the better equipped we are to engage with it wisely. Is what a ChatGPT reply to that might look like. Given how widespread ChatGPT is in use now, I think eventually more people will start to write the way that ChatGPT does, even when they are not using ChatGPT.
- dr_dshiv 3y ago
  > I think eventually more people will start to write the way that ChatGPT does, even when they are not using ChatGPT. Definitely. For better and worse.
  - stavros 3y ago
    Probably better? The people who would write like this are the people who'd write worse if this didn't exist. Unrelated pet peeve: I hate the word "utilize" with a passion. It's "use" with extra steps.
    - arcanemachiner 3y ago
      > I hate the word "utilize" with a passion. It's "use" with extra steps. Boy, are you gonna hate the English language. It's a veritable treasure trove of words that appear to mean the same thing, but, on closer inspection, are jam-packed full of nuance.
      - stavros 3y ago
        That's why I like the English language. "Utilize", however, is exactly the same as "use", with no added nuance.
        webmaven 3y ago
        There is a bit of nuance. "Utilize" is more like "make use of" (as in employing something that was otherwise sitting idle) rather than the more straightforward "use". It isn't much of a difference, but it is there.
bagful 3y ago
GPT-produced text reeks of stereotypies, but there’s a subtler stench to such text that I have trouble verbalizing. Some aspects I pick up on: the text is unnervingly chipper, yet impersonal; it reads like it was never meant to be read out loud; and it’s pathologically convincing.
- swells34 3y ago
  The Uncanny Valley, just for text instead of images.
- layer8 3y ago
  I wonder if its because or in spite of the RLHF.
- sirl1on 3y ago
  Maybe it's recycling PR/Customer Support/SEO language patterns found in large parts of the training data.
  - ametrau 3y ago
    [flagged]
flir 3y ago
The most obvious tell: No "I".
willy_k 3y ago
I think this is largely unique to ChatGPT though, not LLMs at large. OpenAI has done a lot of fine tuning to create a specific product, which is a chatbot, not an LLM that mimics human speech.

moritzwarhier 3y ago

I agree, but it seems reasonable to be concerned that the average rate of failure might be much higher than that of recognizing scams and shady links.

siddbudd 3y ago

> develop a sense for ai text and images You can develop a sense for GPT-4, or DALL·E 3 fine, how about GPT-6 or DALL·E 5? I used to shake my head when I was a teenager and the older generation complained how fast technology is developing, when all they meant was typewriters being replaced by x86 machines, B&W television by color, landline phones by mobile. Yet, now I start to understand what they must have felt like. I can about keep up for now, but how about in 5 or 10 years from now? I don't feel so confident.

rikafurude21 3y ago
Yeah these systems are only getting better, soon enough we wont be able to tell, but think of what that means: GPT being able to write text more complex/persuasive/interesting than the average person posting online might not be a bad thing. Even now ai text is "more intelligent" than a good chunk of things people post. If I had to choose, I'd rather read an LLMs interpretation of what someone might want to say than that person trying to formulate it themselves.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  “That” is the elusive part. What is it? Was there anything to begin with? Are you assaying some meaning which was in fact never there? When someone rambles on their own, you can often tell. Harder when they have an advocate.

codetrotter 3y ago

And for anyone wondering: > It's interesting to see GPT being utilized in various ways, including helping with tweet replies. Developing awareness about AI-generated content is indeed important, much like recognizing other online hazards. The more we understand its presence and capabilities, the better equipped we are to engage with it wisely. Is what a ChatGPT reply to that might look like. Given how widespread ChatGPT is in use now, I think eventually more people will start to write the way that ChatGPT does, even when they are not using ChatGPT.

dr_dshiv 3y ago
> I think eventually more people will start to write the way that ChatGPT does, even when they are not using ChatGPT. Definitely. For better and worse.
- stavros 3y ago
  Probably better? The people who would write like this are the people who'd write worse if this didn't exist. Unrelated pet peeve: I hate the word "utilize" with a passion. It's "use" with extra steps.
  - arcanemachiner 3y ago
    > I hate the word "utilize" with a passion. It's "use" with extra steps. Boy, are you gonna hate the English language. It's a veritable treasure trove of words that appear to mean the same thing, but, on closer inspection, are jam-packed full of nuance.
    - stavros 3y ago
      That's why I like the English language. "Utilize", however, is exactly the same as "use", with no added nuance.
      - webmaven 3y ago
        There is a bit of nuance. "Utilize" is more like "make use of" (as in employing something that was otherwise sitting idle) rather than the more straightforward "use". It isn't much of a difference, but it is there.

bagful 3y ago

GPT-produced text reeks of stereotypies, but there’s a subtler stench to such text that I have trouble verbalizing. Some aspects I pick up on: the text is unnervingly chipper, yet impersonal; it reads like it was never meant to be read out loud; and it’s pathologically convincing.

swells34 3y ago
The Uncanny Valley, just for text instead of images.
layer8 3y ago
I wonder if its because or in spite of the RLHF.
sirl1on 3y ago
Maybe it's recycling PR/Customer Support/SEO language patterns found in large parts of the training data.
- ametrau 3y ago
  [flagged]

flir 3y ago

The most obvious tell: No "I".

willy_k 3y ago

I think this is largely unique to ChatGPT though, not LLMs at large. OpenAI has done a lot of fine tuning to create a specific product, which is a chatbot, not an LLM that mimics human speech.