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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperscale_computing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperscale_computing

zug_zug 3y ago
> In computing, hyperscale is the ability of an architecture to scale appropriately as increased demand is added to the system. So yeah just scaling. I agree I've never heard the word "hyperscale" before and don't think we need that extra intensifier for a well-understood idea.
- tester756 3y ago
  1x, 10x, 1000x are all "scales", yet problems may be a little bit different at each of them
  - zug_zug 3y ago
    I'm just quoting the wikipedia definiton of hyperscale. Nowhere in there does it say anything about 1000x, probably because that is an ill-defined concept. 1000x what? Today's computers are a 1000x the ones from the 90s, should we call them all hypercomputers? Pretty much any startup can boot 20,000 nodes on aws, are they all hyperstartups hyperscaling? Seems like marketing nonsense.
    - kreeben 3y ago
      I'm guessing you're mad about the term but not the concept? And that you do agree, that scaling from 1 to 10 is not the same animal as scaling from 10 to 100? So why, then, call both animals "plain and simple scaling"?
      - zug_zug 3y ago
        > And that you do agree, that scaling from 1 to 10 is not the same animal as scaling from 10 to 100? So why, then, call both animals "plain and simple scaling"? So you think we need 4 different words for scaling 1-10, 10-100, 100-1000....? Cut it out, you know it's just marketing hype. Not everything needs its own word.
        tverbeure 3y ago
        It makes sense to have different words for totally different orders of scaling, yes.
    - tester756 3y ago
      >1000x what? Today's computers are a 1000x the ones from the 90s, should we call them all hypercomputers? Pretty much any startup can boot 20,000 nodes on aws, are they all hyperstartups hyperscaling? Why compare to the past capabilities, wtf? >Pretty much any startup can boot 20,000 nodes on aws, are they all hyperstartups hyperscaling? Now think how many nodes can Google, Microsoft, Fb, etc. run in their 10s of datacenters.
- dboreham 3y ago
  The word hyperscale afaik was coined by Wall St people as a collective noun for FB, Google, MS, et al, in the context of their in-house data center operations.

> In computing, hyperscale is the ability of an architecture to scale appropriately as increased demand is added to the system. So yeah just scaling. I agree I've never heard the word "hyperscale" before and don't think we need that extra intensifier for a well-understood idea.

tester756 3y ago
1x, 10x, 1000x are all "scales", yet problems may be a little bit different at each of them
- zug_zug 3y ago
  I'm just quoting the wikipedia definiton of hyperscale. Nowhere in there does it say anything about 1000x, probably because that is an ill-defined concept. 1000x what? Today's computers are a 1000x the ones from the 90s, should we call them all hypercomputers? Pretty much any startup can boot 20,000 nodes on aws, are they all hyperstartups hyperscaling? Seems like marketing nonsense.
  - kreeben 3y ago
    I'm guessing you're mad about the term but not the concept? And that you do agree, that scaling from 1 to 10 is not the same animal as scaling from 10 to 100? So why, then, call both animals "plain and simple scaling"?
    - zug_zug 3y ago
      > And that you do agree, that scaling from 1 to 10 is not the same animal as scaling from 10 to 100? So why, then, call both animals "plain and simple scaling"? So you think we need 4 different words for scaling 1-10, 10-100, 100-1000....? Cut it out, you know it's just marketing hype. Not everything needs its own word.
      - tverbeure 3y ago
        It makes sense to have different words for totally different orders of scaling, yes.
  - tester756 3y ago
    >1000x what? Today's computers are a 1000x the ones from the 90s, should we call them all hypercomputers? Pretty much any startup can boot 20,000 nodes on aws, are they all hyperstartups hyperscaling? Why compare to the past capabilities, wtf? >Pretty much any startup can boot 20,000 nodes on aws, are they all hyperstartups hyperscaling? Now think how many nodes can Google, Microsoft, Fb, etc. run in their 10s of datacenters.
dboreham 3y ago
The word hyperscale afaik was coined by Wall St people as a collective noun for FB, Google, MS, et al, in the context of their in-house data center operations.